Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, and Other Big Grocers Make Big Decision on GMO Salmon

Is it not product substation? selling GMO in place of natural, at the very least it should be advertised, let the consumer wisely choose what they want.

If GMO turned out to be healthier and beneficial they wouldn't think twice about labeling it GMO, yet knowing that the public do not see GMO products as a healthy alternative they decided to deceive, and subvert.

I believe if we eliminated corruption and greed, and focused on the technology and its impact, GMO could be very beneficial, but in our current application it is a way to increase profit margins for share holders at the health risk of consumers.

We do not live in a free market, a free market also means full disclosure of information regarding products, we instead perpetuate ignorance in order to exploit others, then justify it as profit.

And boom goes the dynamite for the free market.

Government does nothing, the people speak, companies react in the best interest of themselves based on how the people decide to buy their products.

True Capitalism is truly great.

A great stand this shows.

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Who says the free market doesn't work? The forces of the free market are actually making headway against the fascist-like actions of the federal government being the strong-arm of the private sector (hello Monsanto, Pfizer, Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobil, General Electric, etc...)

It didn't take government to 'force' these LARGE alternative food chains to reject GMO salmon even before the FDA approved of it.

Keep getting informed and keep voting with your dollar, maybe this ship can be turned around after all.

www.takepart.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 20-3-2013 by eLPresidente because: (no reason given)

LOL

this has nothing to do with free markets...

koch brothers are for free markets that way they can make more money...

free markets just allow rich people to get richer...that is the goal for them.

this is about GMO's and i'm thankful that these businesses are stepping up, that is awesome, thank you

"The forces of the free market are actually making headway against the fascist-like actions of the federal government being the strong-arm of the private sector (hello Monsanto, Pfizer, Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobil, General Electric, etc.."

just what exactly are you talking about here?

This is fantastic news, now as for the rest of the big food chains my local publix told me that they will carry the salmon when it was available I ask the workers in the meat area to tell me which one it was and they did, to tell the truth is less expensive than wild and farm salmon, that will make it more acceptable for people on budgets, but in my case I only eat wild salmon in season.

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S&F Great news. A strike back at the Empire. There might be some hope for us "small" people after all.

I love Trader Joe's but the thing is if you can afford to shop there you can choose not to eat GMO's. If your forced to buy discount food and can not afford to pay two bucks more for every item and your stuck eating crap. It's sad how people will spend tons of money fixing their body but wont drop a few extra bucks to put healthy things into their body.

"What is wrong with America??

How can grass fed meat (grass grows for FREE btw) cost more than meat from an animal that is fed hormone filled garbage and modified genetically?

Something is very sick in your system America and someone is enforcing hidden and non production related costs of grass fed beef if it is dearer than your concentration camp style factory farm product. "

EXACTLY!...this is what my biggest rant has been.

I truly believe that the whole "organic" scene has become a racket too...for the stated quotes above. I grew up on whole food, and packaged food. I can still remember when packaged food was more expensive than the produce or buying a whole chicken.

If one buys a whole organic chicken around where I live, they can expect to pay $15 for it! For a whole chicken.

Organics is the new New Age people. Same stuff you've been eating all your life, but marketed as a "better" way to eat. So the price is jacked up, and I mean JACKED!

With the exception of Aldi, which has a limited selection of fresh fruit and meat, the other stores are too expensive for the average consumer.

Healthy food is reserved for the rich or the upper middle class.

Somehow I don't think this is over.

I would not be surprised once GMO gets the FDA approval that they will lobby and pa$$ some regulation to prevent grocers from excluding GMO FDA approved products, if it doesn't already exists.

Originally posted by markosity1973

Even though grass fed meats are expensive, I try to buy as often as I can and eat as little GMO meats as possible (just think of it as this: If it doesn't say its pasture raised or grass-fed, or non-GMO you know its GMO or GMO-fed.

Try to put your money into things you know are grown by a decent farmer that takes pride in his work, I know its tough and inconvenient these days but if everybody puts a little work into it, we can see more headlines like the one in the OP.

What is wrong with America??

How can grass fed meat (grass grows for FREE btw) cost more than meat from an animal that is fed hormone filled garbage and modified genetically?

All of the processes involved in making the food, keeping the animal confined, breeding it unnnaturally, stopping it from getting ill because it is being forced to live in a manner that it should never ever be forced to cost money. In contrast an animal that is born for free via the natural mating process and lives and grows for very little money and usually is far healthier because it lives as nature intended requires little human intervention other than helping manage the levels of grass i.e ration them through the available grass in order to make sure they never go hungry.

As the son of a farmer from New Zealand, I just don't get it! Something is very sick in your system America and someone is enforcing hidden and non production related costs of grass fed beef if it is dearer than your concentration camp style factory farm product. Someone needs to do a shockumentary on the whole factory farming process, expose it for what it is and force some change.

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The almighty government that supposedly knows what's best for us better than ourselves, subsidizes the growth of corn among some other major crops. Then you have mega lobby Monsanto bullying farmers into growing their gmo seeds and spraying with ones to weed killers otherwise face the penalty of massive legal fees fighting Monsanto in court. Yes grass is essentially free and gives the meat the proper nutrients that are supposed to come naturally. It is a shame Americans don't get what they deserve. The. Again we as a whole advocate government intervention in almost every aspect of our lives now, maybe we DO deserve all this.

Originally posted by cornucopia

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Who says the free market doesn't work? The forces of the free market are actually making headway against the fascist-like actions of the federal government being the strong-arm of the private sector (hello Monsanto, Pfizer, Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobil, General Electric, etc...)

It didn't take government to 'force' these LARGE alternative food chains to reject GMO salmon even before the FDA approved of it.

Keep getting informed and keep voting with your dollar, maybe this ship can be turned around after all.

www.takepart.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 20-3-2013 by eLPresidente because: (no reason given)

LOL

this has nothing to do with free markets...

koch brothers are for free markets that way they can make more money...

free markets just allow rich people to get richer...that is the goal for them.

this is about GMO's and i'm thankful that these businesses are stepping up, that is awesome, thank you

"The forces of the free market are actually making headway against the fascist-like actions of the federal government being the strong-arm of the private sector (hello Monsanto, Pfizer, Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobil, General Electric, etc.."

just what exactly are you talking about here?

If you don't understand the true nature of this government and how the federal govrent is merely a paid thug for corporatists, then you won't get any further explanation.

You simply don't understand how free markets truly work. It is not a sin to get rich selling products or services that people are willing to voluntarily pay for. It is however a sin to use abuse bribe and extort your way to a monopoly of force to WILL others into your way.

All this time you're cheer leading Obama, he sells you out by telling you how he is your friend and gives huge tax breaks to your friendly global corporatists.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
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That is awesome news. I shop at Trader Joe's exclusively for my groceries. It's nice to be able to walk into a store and let your guard down a little, knowing that someone is looking out for you. Not that I trust anyone 100%, but I definitely trust them more than Ralphs.

The best thing about trader joes is that thy claim to be 100% gmo free with all of their HOUSE labeled products. The government didn't need to force them to do this and nobody needed to vote for them to do it. They did it all on their own. Now is the consumers turn to reward those who behave we'll in the private sector.

Talk about rewarding behavior. Why does anybody advocate bailing out the big banks? Most politicians including Obama and bush advocated it over letting them fail. If a gambler lost all his money at the casino, do we reward him with more money to lose? Nope....

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This isn't the most well thought out thread ever but, it is great news and so star and flag to you for bringing it up. This is good news and a relief that some companies are standing up to Monsanto and Cargill. I also like Whole Foods offers grass fed, organic meat products which are "Animal Welfare Approved."

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

That is awesome news. I shop at Trader Joe's exclusively for my groceries. It's nice to be able to walk into a store and let your guard down a little, knowing that someone is looking out for you. Not that I trust anyone 100%, but I definitely trust them more than Ralphs.

The best thing about trader joes is that thy claim to be 100% gmo free with all of their HOUSE labeled products. The government didn't need to force them to do this and nobody needed to vote for them to do it. They did it all on their own. Now is the consumers turn to reward those who behave we'll in the private sector.

Talk about rewarding behavior. Why does anybody advocate bailing out the big banks? Most politicians including Obama and bush advocated it over letting them fail. If a gambler lost all his money at the casino, do we reward him with more money to lose? Nope....

Elisabeth Warren is the most vocal advocate of jailing bankers and before she is finished you can bet there are going to be a few of those responsible for the banking collapse that wind up doing time. She is pushing for it and asking why they CAN"T be prosecuted and jailed like every other person who contentiously and deliberately defrauds the public is.

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For grass fed you also need LAND. Many of these farmers have space restraints and impose them on their animals. You can feed as well as pack a lot of cows in one small space if they don't get to walk around.

The sad part is that it's all these chains that are usually not in the inner city or lower income areas...so I'm thinking that a lot of the other chains will carry this and folks will purchase it because it's cheaper..I know folks that are making minimum wage are probably not shopping at Whole foods but then again they are probably not eating salmon but more of the cheaper fish such as pollock...

Its hard to trust any companies claiming they are gmo free... i work in a factory that has a contract with TJ and we make a TON of their chocolate covered items such as milk choc cranberries, almonds walnuts and their toffee... and I supply the ingriedients from the warehouse. They use gmo. Label it as 'all natural' while I know damn well by looking at where those ingriedients come from are quite the oopposite. Not natural, and full of gmos. From the sugar to chocolate to the butter.

All of the borderline decisions made by the FDA are influenced by the mighty buck. Billions were made by its producers when Viagra won approval despite it causing strokes and heart attacks, the politically connected members of the FDA board must have doubled their wealth.

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Thank god, these stores are taking a stand against GMO's-- it will only leave mega'purchasers like Walmart and Meijers to buy the frankenfish-- and since there is a lot wrong with America's food manufacturing, maybe the supply chain will slow...
Why are we the only country allowing ourselves to be ruled by a sew GIANT food corporations...