Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by Hijinx
Few problems here. The best man made EMP's are created from high altitude nuclear detonations. Using a nuke as a weapon anywhere, even as a tool for an EMP is going to cause serious global turmoil. Too many nuclear parties in the world to risk using a nuclear device to produce a significant EMP. This type of EMP is at a specific altitude based on yield. Too high, no effects will reach the ground, too low, you may not get an EMP and you will irradiate the # out of your target area.
While I do agree with you (and science does as well) about the EMP's created by nuclear detonations (which I was talking about), you are also hinting at the fact that they are able to create an EMP weapon but they lack the intelligence to calculate the altitude needed for a nuclear weapon EMP?
You also seem to be comparing Solar based EMP's with, the emp military tech can produce.
Nope again. I was talking about an E1 nuclear EMP while you are thinking I was talking about an E3 EMP which would have no more power than the northern lights.
Plus, I haven't heard that the US had created an EMP weapon, do you have a source for me to read? I can only find opinion, or friend of a friend type sites that list it.
There seems to be a lot of this on ATS. If you could really set off an EMP and throw a nation into the stone age it would be done with NK, it would be done with Iran, it would be done with pretty much anyone that gets out of line. 0 loss of life, and an absolute win for those who use it.
They could do it, if they wanted to blow up another nuke...unfortunately, using a nuke over NK for developing a nuke wouldn't be good PR.
It just doesn't work that way. I hear this with the threat of ballistic missiles " Oh we will just set off an EMP and they will be useless." No, even that rudimentary metal hull on the missile is enough to shield it from minor to moderate emp's. That's basically the concept behind a farraday cage. A closed metal hull surrounding the object you want to protect. The current runs along the outside of the object, and the inside is fine. Yes, in some cases if there is contact between the case and the sensitive electronics the current could cause problems, but you have to insulate that area anyways so you don't short out the electronics while they operate.
Yes in the case of a missile, or any other suitably shielded electronics, they will be fine. Everything else in the line of sight, will not be. You could even use a metal garbage can, just put your electronics on a piece of wood inside. One other misconception people have is that they would just have to unplug their device.
The order of Solar flare based emp's and man made emp's are so far apart it's apples and oranges.
Agreed. That's why I wasn't comparing the two.
You could take the Tsar bomba up a few miles and still not produce the power of a solar(from the sun) emp, and there are ways to shield our tech from even those mighty blasts.
Your opinion or you have a source?
Again, EMP's have the most effect on long lines, antennas, and sensitive instruments that are operating at the time of the EMP.
...yes, the most effect. Not the only, but the most. Bullets also kill people with softer skin quicker too.
and... so on... and so on, gee will they ever get tired of all them alerts or being on stand by.
The alert was lifted about one hour later.
North Korean troops were placed on standby after the United States and South Korea began their annual joint military drill earlier this month.
On Tuesday, the US Defense Department said it had flown a B-52 strategic bomber capable of carrying nuclear missiles in the joint exercise.
The North Korean military's Supreme Command issued a statement on Thursday in reaction to the B-52 flight.
The statement says US intimidation has begun and North Korea will move to take adequate military action.
It warned the US not to forget that North Korea is capable of attacking US bases in Guam as well as Japan's mainland and Okinawa.
The air raid alert is seen as part of North Korea's attempt to keep the United States in check.
Originally posted by daryllyn
Little Kim is awfully busy lately.
I am hoping this is another bluff.