CVS Hijacks Their Employee's Bodies

Originally posted by FyreByrd
reply to post by redoubt

 

It's no different then the CEO of Domino's not allowing birth control in his employees health insurance package. The courts have upheld that and they will uphold this as well.

I won't be buying at Domino's or CVS any time soon. Thanks for the head's up.

PS - for any who are going to say "it's not the same thing", it's the same principle how ever you state it - an employer dictating what is right and what is wrong - it is discrimanition by another means.

an employer can dictate waht you wear to work and how you act at work. they find that to be right in their business. They can do that it is their business. You however can rebel against it by not conducting business with them.

Dominos can do what it wants. people do not have to work or eat there. I wish people would respect businesses and their ability to conduct business as they see fit.

CVS can do what they want as well.

reply to post by votan


I agree

Personally I believe its fat people who are complaining because the excess intake of calories is now catching up to them. What they fail to realize is their addiction to food is hurting the rest of society, and this is an example of that.

You have the right to religion, speech, and fair treatment based on gender, religion, sexual orientation... because these things do not hurt your co-workers or the company. You stuffing your face with crap DOES hurt those things and CVS is just saying if you are are gunna eat up, then pay up.

reply to post by votan


I agree

Personally I believe its fat people who are complaining because the excess intake of calories is now catching up to them. What they fail to realize is their addiction to food is hurting the rest of society, and this is an example of that.

You have the right to religion, speech, and fair treatment based on gender, religion, sexual orientation... because these things do not hurt your co-workers or the company. You stuffing your face with crap DOES hurt those things and CVS is just saying if you are are gunna eat up, then pay up.

[i no]reply to post by redoubt

Hi redoubt, What a crock...it is true, seems like taking over peoples bodies. How ridiculous. A person can hardly eat healthy and stay healthy nowadays, through no fault of their own in many cases, yet will get penalized for it. It is practically impossible to eat healthy nowadays. High fructose corn syrup in everything, even in juices we once thought were healthy. Flouride and pharmaceuticals in our water, so many fruits and veggies are GMOs now, antibiotics and growth hormones in our poultry and cattle. Duh, growth hormones will cause us to grow too when we eat those foods. Many BP meds, zoloft and thyroid meds and other type of meds cause weight gain. Not everyonne is eating like a pig. Hypothyroidism causes weight gain Anti-seizure drugs cause weight gain.

As far as preventative invasive tests, not all tests are without risk of infection or other type problems. Our bodies should be our own business. Vaccines have aborted fetal cells in some of them, among other harmful chemicals.

I was a vegetarian for a long time, excercised everyday, weighed 125 and yet had high bp..went on meds for same, weight went up. Private medical concerns/records should be kept private....not the business of govt. or corporations. Not everyone lives an unhealthy lifestyle. The environment and our crops, food, and the joke of an FDA has a lot to do with the problems we face. Not all food labeled/sold as organic really is such either. Seeds and seedlings come from Monsanto.

It is assumed that everyone is just eating bucket loads of fried chicken and sitting in front of the boob tube all day and that is not the case. For some folks, that is true but not for everyone. Maybe weight issues should be brought up relevant to all the fat cat politians on the Hill first. Let them get on the scales too...oh wait, that's right, Obamacare dosen't affect them. They have the best Medical in the world, at our expense.

reply to post by BritofTexas


Will Obamacare require all Americans to undergo BMI (Body Mass Index) screening by 2014? Presumably, the BMI results will be used to ration health care in some manner as finite numbers of doctors, nurses, and hospitals struggle to cope with unlimited demand for their services.

A document named Health Information Technology Standards link reports Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ new certification standards for electronic health records (EHRs). Electronic health records are to be maintained for each person in the United States by 2014.”

On page 61 in The Code of Federal Regulations Part 170 it states that EHRs will calculate BMIs. An additional document refers to certification criteria for EHRs and specifically shows that BMI will be part of the vital signs included in EHRs. Therefore, Obamacare will require an EHR for all Americans and that the EHR will be required to include a calculation for BMI.

reply to post by B1rd1nFL1ghT



From the HIT (Health Information Technology) website. link

The Healthcare Information Technology Standards Panel (HITSP) is a cooperative partnership between the public and private sectors. The Panel was formed for the purpose of harmonizing and integrating standards that will meet clinical and business needs for sharing information among organizations and systems.

IS 10 Immunizations and Response Management The Immunizations and Response Management Interoperability Specification focuses on: 1) providing information about individuals who need to receive specific vaccines, drugs, or other interventions; 2) the ability to report, track, and manage administration of vaccines, drugs, isolation, and quarantine; 3) the ability to identify and electronically exchange information describing the treatment or prophylaxis status of populations; 4) the ability to exchange specific resource and supply chain data from public and private sectors.

Yes it would appear that vaccinations will soon become mandatory.

A bit more on the whole BMI requirement and where it is hidden. Please also read my other two posts directly above this one.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, signed into law in 2009 under the Obama Administration, has provided approximately $19 billion in incentives for hospitals to shift from paper to electronic medical records. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act has set aside $2 billion which will go towards programs developed by the National Coordinator and Secretary to help healthcare providers implement HIT and provide technical assistance through various regional centers.

link

The genesis of this is found in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, the stimulus bill, rather than the Obamacare law itself.

Section 3001 in Part C Duties of the National Coordinator Subpart 3 paragraph (a) (ii) states that the National Coordinator shall “update the Federal Health IT Strategic Plan” with “utilization of an electronic health record for each person in the United States by 2014.” This constitutes the basis for Sebelius’ EHR standard.

Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by FyreByrd

 

First, it is Domino Farms not Domino pizza. That has been stated multiple times in the thread.

Well slap my face, I was wrong. But my point still stands that, because it is the same principle (of companies being able to run their business as they want - "if you don't like it, quit - find another proverty - umm sorry - minimum wage job elsewhere". The courts upheld birth control, the courts will uphold health screenings (and soon - coming to an interview near you genetic testing).

Companies already do this screening informally (as it's considered workplace discrimination) at least CVS is being open and honest about it.

Originally posted by votan

Originally posted by FyreByrd


an employer can dictate waht you wear to work and how you act at work. they find that to be right in their business. They can do that it is their business. You however can rebel against it by not conducting business with them.

Dominos can do what it wants. people do not have to work or eat there. I wish people would respect businesses and their ability to conduct business as they see fit.

CVS can do what they want as well.

Consider:

Tepco - doing what they want........
Monsanto - doing what they want.......
Bank of America - doing what they want.....
The Carlyle Group - doing what they want.....


Yep, business can do what it wants - until we are all dead. Great idea there votan.....

my company did this too.
However, it went something like this.

Want a discount on insurance?
Get the 70 point checkup at the Dr.s office. and save lots of money on insurance

See what they did?

Raised the rates, so:
Everyone gets fined,,but if you get a checkup, you can reduce the fine,,,they call it a discount.

reply to post by FyreByrd


The government- doing what they want.....

Oh wait, they already are. How's that working out for you so far hun?

reply to post by spacedoubt


The Supreme Court declared it to be a tax and not a fine. So what they did was raise your taxes if you refused to comply. Hmmn, are you middle class?

Originally posted by redoubt
Your rights to your own body are now the stuff that your employer can own. You never asked to marry their daughter. You just want a job so you can try and pay bills and feed your family. Now to just get a measly paycheck... nothing close to what their golden CEO knocks down, you have to surrender yourself to them or pay CVS extra $600 a year!

Thought slavery was outlawed.

It's your right to shop anywhere you choose. I know where I won't be shopping.

I'm sure this is a way for the insurance companies to wiggle out of paying.

It's shows here that you're overweight, etc, etc, so you're responsible for your heart attack.
We're not paying for it.

I worked at CVS for a while (Technically Longs Drugs, which was bought out by CVS) it is a horrible company. In the west, Longs Drugs stores were much larger than CVS stores in the east that resemble a walgreens. They cut payroll from 800hrs a week to 250hrs a week. We went from having 2 cashiers, photo person, cosmetics specialist, 2 stockers, a shipping/receiving guy, and a part time bookkeeper to a cashier a manager and maybe 1 stocker. The entire store is run off of a manager and 2 people, it is horrible. They also pay terrible and offer a 2% raise once a year...if you started a minimum wage how many years would it take just for you to get $1 in raises? freaking ridiculous

reply to post by FyreByrd


If you read the rest of my post you would see we disagree. I believe in working for better not having it given to me with hidden costs.

Keep letting the government tell you they are caring for you for free though.

Raist

reply to post by AuranVector


Nope they can't wiggle out of paying. Under the ACH they have to pay. What they can do is raise rates if they can justify doing so... See where this is going yet???

This is not about Obamacare; it actually started about 10 years ago. It is a plot by insurance companies to find out your "pre-existing conditions" so they can refuse to insure you.

It began about 2005 with with neighborhood "health fairs" targeted at the elderly that offered "free screenings." I was invited to one of these by a grandma, and actually read the 14 pages of fine print. The health screening is free, but they SELL your information to an agency that ARCHIVES YOUR HEALTH DATA in case you ever file a claim for something like AIDS.

With an old DNA sample, they can prove you were already sick beforehand, and you are magically not covered.

Now that Obamacare is phasing out the "pre-existing conditions" system, the insurance companies will dictate to the employer which employees (and eventually their children) cannot be covered by the company policy.

This has already happened to me.

I have a relative who died of a highly inheritable form of cancer. Now, no company will provide me ANY life insurance policy, at any price. Somehow they bought my relative's data, and matched it to mine.

So if I die (of anything), my wife and children won't have any insurance to help them get through those worst, first two years without the primary breadwinner.

Thanks a lot, insurance cartel.

Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by FyreByrd

 

If you read the rest of my post you would see we disagree. I believe in working for better not having it given to me with hidden costs.

Keep letting the government tell you they are caring for you for free though.

Raist

UMM - Yeah - and your point is?

Sorry about the one liner - but I can't puzzle out this 'answer'? to what I said. Just a MOR statement that can mean anything. Or just a bait? Too much for me....

Originally posted by FyreByrd

Originally posted by votan

Originally posted by FyreByrd


an employer can dictate waht you wear to work and how you act at work. they find that to be right in their business. They can do that it is their business. You however can rebel against it by not conducting business with them.

Dominos can do what it wants. people do not have to work or eat there. I wish people would respect businesses and their ability to conduct business as they see fit.

CVS can do what they want as well.

Consider:

Tepco - doing what they want........
Monsanto - doing what they want.......
Bank of America - doing what they want.....
The Carlyle Group - doing what they want.....


Yep, business can do what it wants - until we are all dead. Great idea there votan.....

You don't have to bank with bank of america. I have never been a member of a bank.

I grow my own produce or partner up with growers here at home.

I actively go against the grain. except people are to lazy and allow these companies to do what they want.

The root of the problem is .. look in the mirror.

you enable them by making those practices work. By being lazy and not growing your own food or being conscious of how it is grown. By putting your money in banks that go around dicking others over.

I am well aware or at least try to be of who i deal with.

consider personal respoinsibility. If everyone practiced that maybe we wouldn't have such retarded problems

I think it only applies to full time employees.

If your part time, you have nothing worry about.