Originally posted by neoholographic
reply to post by Hijinx
I agree with some of your post but this last part is subjective.
I can not with any sensible logic claim ET has visited our planet. There is literally no sound proof. This does not how ever mean they do not
I don't see how anyone can logically discount close encounters from others and say there's no sound proof. I think these close encounters are
evidence of alien visitation. Is it conclusive evidence by itself? No, but when you add in other factors it's very good evidence.
At the end of the day, it's basically saying everyone who has had these encounters is lying or hallucinating. We can't be egocentric in these
things. We can't say, well Aliens haven't shown themselves to me so there's no evidence. Or Aliens having communicated in the subjective way I want
them to so there's no evidence.
So when you say Extraterrestrial exist you have to give weight to Extraterrestrial visitation. You can't say well Aliens can't do x,y and z. You
can't limit what Aliens can do based on our current technology and understanding of Physics.
I've either presented this wrong, or you have failed to interpret my words. Either way, I apologize.
I do not claim ET does not exist because it has not shown itself or communicated with us. That is meant to be a separate all together, so I'm sorry
the blended together. I will be sure to be more clear and concise.
I do not believe everyone who claims to have had a close encounter has actually had a close encounter. There are plenty of phenomena that can feel
very real to us, and be nothing more than hallucination, dreams or tricks of our own minds.
We understand so little about our minds, and much of the world around us is filled in by our brains rather than actually observed. Our Eyes are
notorious for this, and with that I can not take a sighting of a being in the woods as a being in the woods. Even if it was there are too many
variables before I could accept it as being ET. No matter how weird it looked or acted in the dark.
Abduction almost always happens in an instance where the abductee was in bed, most of these cases as real as they may have seemed for the one who
experienced it, could very well have been sleep paralysis related hallucinations where the person is consciously aware of their surroundings but their
body is asleep, and they are between the waking world and sleep. These types of hallucinations are almost always terrifying, and extremely vivid.
On to stories of abductees being taken from cars, fields etc. I'm not sure. Lots of testimony varies so wildly, and many individuals seem to have
stories that change frequently when they are brought up for revisit. I can not say the individual did not have an experience, but I'm not convinced
it was with ET. As the years progress more and more people claim to have close encounters but less and less evidence outside of hearsay is available.
There are rare cases where phenomena are observed by various witnesses and maybe radar picked something up, but this isn't always the case.
With the advent of photo manipulation software, more and more convincing fakes are surfacing on the web as well. The whole thing has taken on a new
cult like aspect, where individuals come up with fantastical stories, produce video or photographic evidence that is nothing more than someone's
creation. I'm skeptical about Earthly visitation, there are very few pieces presented to me that convince me someone isn't playing something up.
I often find videos online of people recording the dark sky and all we see is a light. They assure us the object is there, that it is not an aircraft,
that it is not the military, for us to do some digging and it's next to an airport, or a military base, or we find out it was a clever hoax.
The ET waters have been poisoned, by the public themselves.
I believe ET exists, I believe Intelligent ET exists. I do not believe they visit us on the regular. I'm pretty convinced they do not abduct people
Can I take away the fact someone experienced something, no. will I call them liars, no not all of them. How ever, I'm not convinced the experience
was ET. We live in a strange world, and there are far too many variables before we jump to interstellar beings abducting us. Something Paranormal I
will bite on some cases, ET not so much.