It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by ddaniel
People really need to stop seeing enlightenment as a "thing" that can be obtained, otherwise you will miss the whole point.
Enlightenment is a concept. It is simply a word, used to convey the experience of (if even temporarily) Knowing one's true nature.
There are many levels of this experience, as the true nature of our Self is infinite, but enlightenment is not a noun... It's an adjective.
The Buddha said he was "awake". Jesus said he was One with the father.
There is a REASON all of the people we view as "enlightened" never claimed so themselves!edit on 23-3-2013 by ddaniel because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheBlackHat
Originally posted by ddaniel
People really need to stop seeing enlightenment as a "thing" that can be obtained, otherwise you will miss the whole point.
Enlightenment is a concept. It is simply a word, used to convey the experience of (if even temporarily) Knowing one's true nature.
There are many levels of this experience, as the true nature of our Self is infinite, but enlightenment is not a noun... It's an adjective.
The Buddha said he was "awake". Jesus said he was One with the father.
There is a REASON all of the people we view as "enlightened" never claimed so themselves!edit on 23-3-2013 by ddaniel because: (no reason given)
Yeah your basically right...I mean a baby is enlightened...but once you teach them to talk and socialize with other people...its forgotten. The so called path..is simply trying to get back to what you forgot. your true nature..but to be able to remember your true self..is an enlightening experience...but its more about forgetting everything than remembering anything...funny that is...but true. .
I dunno about the true nature of self being infinite though...the atoms that make us up are supposed to be infinite..and as they are part of us...you could say we are infinite...but as far as our essence or souls...being infinite...well who knows...if that stuff even exists...I mean i don't remember before i was born and probably wont recall anything of my life after i die...but that's just my memory and mind...and if there is a deeper intrinsic "self" beyond the mind then it hardly matters to speculate on that..maybe there is even a deeper level to forget and maybe our true nature isn't even being human beings..maybe ill wake up in a second as something else and this was all a dream...
Originally posted by LastStarfighter
Get outside of your self centered attention. It's a turn off to women that want a man
Originally posted by thinker101
this post is very sexist.
this post is insulting to people who are actually trying to reach enlightenment.
if u are so ego-free why do you need someone who is attractive?
Yes, women are shallow apparently for not accepting himas he is. Yet he wouldn't accept a plain woman with an hearing aid by the sound of it.
“Life lived in the absence of the psychedelic experience is life trivialized, life denied, life enslaved to the ego.”
– Terence McKenna
Originally posted by transubstantiation
reply to post by roguetechie
I totally agree with you. Also now he has brought up the fact that he has a daughter, his misogyny and serial killer fantasies are even more worrying.edit on 26/5/13 by transubstantiation because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by Kody27
reply to post by TheProphetMark
I was interested in reading this until I got about 4 sentences in to the Jesus part. People relating Jesus with true enlightenment need to be put down.
What good might come from having them 'put down'? Personally i mean. I take you don't actually mean they should actually be killed. But 'they' offend you. What good does the offense of them serve you?
Even if the entire bible was fake, and jesus never existed there is still some truth communicated there. Like a broken clock being wrong twice a day. 'Love one another' or 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you' at the time it was supposedly said was novel and profound. Not because they are nice things to do.. but because in the context of people attaining inner peace, manifesting outer peace, attaining 'enlightenment' they are laws that cannot be circumvented. Peace!