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This question is more for fun than anything. Don't you find yourself a little presumptuous telling me what a book that you don't believe in says? I mean from a spiritual standpoint wouldn't it be hard to understand something that you don't believe to be true? After all you are not even looking to see if it could be true anymore. Sorry just had to point that out for a little fun.
The tree is the knowledge of Good and Evil. The tree could have been an apple tree, the metaphor is far more important here. If you look at the description of Eden it could be assumed that at least on a subconscious level ADAM had knowledge of good, and therefore he knew that breaking the command was at least against what is good.
Being naked in God's presence alone is not evil, but that they now recognized the evil that can come from being naked, lust.
Everything happens by the will of God, meaning God put a test in front of them that they were designed to fail. He knew what they would do but yet tested them anyway. Why would God create something that he was only going to hate? God is love and it was his intention that by giving us this knowledge we could become like him. We were made to be like him, this is what is promised in the bible.
The belief in a trinity was not something established by a committee, but something integral to Christianity since its inception.
I think you need some kind of reality check.
The one who discards some of the book as lies and thus is required to go to other books to find the truth?
Or the person who believes that every word is the truth and trust the promise that the Holy Spirit will come to me and teach me all things?
Since you have discarded much of the book as corrupted it is impossible for you to reconcile all scripture to the truth, it is because of this that you have created your own truth that is sufficient for you.
My truth is the bible, inspired and protected by the father so that we may have the truth in its entirety. Since I know God is love and my understanding points to a loving father, I will have to stick to what I believe.
OK, this seems to be your explanation. Of course I already registered my argument against this, so I don't think this is in the Bible, as you state.
God simply reveals the scripture to me so that I may understand. This is what the bible says will happen if one has faith.
1 John 2:26-27 26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
1 Corinthians 2:10 "But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God."
John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you."
JOHN 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you unto all truth ..."
1 Corinthians 2:10 "But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God."
John is saying, There are these people going around saying that to have eternal life, you need to 'know' things. These would be people we think of today as Gnostics.
1 John 2:26-27 26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
Here Paul is talking about wisdom and he means it as a sort of appreciation of what has happened, namely Jesus and his death on the cross.
1 Corinthians 2:10 "But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God."
Unless you were one of Jesus' disciples, then this does not apply directly to you, same with the next verse you listed which I already went over.
John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you."
That is your mind in overdrive because you have set yourself up to go into manic mode, convincing yourself that you need to 'understand' the Bible, maybe because of your lack of understanding the things you think are promises and turning them into mandates that if you are 'saved' then you have to have all these wonderful inspired thoughts that 'must' be true.
the Holy Spirit is in me and is teaching me all things.
I think you have a quantity vs. quality situation with your methodology of Bible 'study' where you have a lot of these fragmentary snippets of texts all jumbled up in your head and your mind is connecting them because this is what it has to work with since you are starving it of actual useful knowledge.
Funny, that is exactly what the bible said some would say.
Do you really think I am 'persecuting' you because of Jesus?
Mathew 5:11 "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Imagine we are in the matrix you have a red pill and a blue pill.
Take the red pill and wake back up right where you are.
Take the blue pill AKA the "love God Pill" and well you find love. But with love comes wisdom, with wisdom comes joy, with joy comes service, through service you become a son of God. A son of God cannot die because no one has authority over the son that was not given by the father. This is what my brother Jesus said. I may never be exactly like Christ but I will be love like I was called to be. And that will be enough for me.
People can listen to a recording of someone reading the Bible, then use it as a sort of meditation tool to launch themselves off into little realms of private ecstasy.
. . . why are they arguing about this . . .
Interesting...
Originally posted by windword
I have another theory.
If Jesus was indeed in the Garden of Eden, and I"m not convinced that he was, he was "The Tree of Life."
Genesis 2:8
In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
I get your attempt at being humorous.
Who are you to say that your imagined interpretation of a work of historical fiction is better than another's imagined interpretation of a work of historical fiction?
No I didn't, and stop trying to get me banned.
You literally called me crazy and told me to seek help.