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A lot. I mean that you are not just posting so many verses and then commenting by saying something like, "Isn't it so inspiring to one if they read these verses, as organized here by myself, and then meditated on?"
What am I saying that does not agree with this passage?
See my comment above.
What you say does not agree but what I say is exactly what it says above.
So you believe that your having read the Bible has given you a special ability to 'translate' it so that it is as good or better than the Bible itself?
I do not use my own words as you suggest, I simply have put to memory most of the NT so the words are simply the translation that God has provided me.
My suggestion, not just to you, but to anyone who wants to understand the New Testament, is to study the Greek language that it was written in rather than just the English translation that does not always convey precisly what the writer was trying to get across in a particular passage.
. . . he was here to teach man to love, because they are loved, because God is love.
I don't think I am going against the scripture but that you have a problem not seeing certain things in it. And not just you, I should add, but by almost all Christians trying to understand John 1 with their heads full of a misunderstanding of it because of how it has been bent over the centuries in order to support dogma.
Here is the scripture that supports my claim that Jesus is the light . . .
John 1:7-9 . . . He was not the light . . .
I would recommend for everyone to read this book, Cosmology and Self in the Apostle Paul: The Material Spirit, by Troels Engberg-Pedersen
For us to live God must be in us, when we sin we lose the feeling of God/love in us but he is still there, we are being punished.
If you were to read it in Hebrew, you might notice the word, Elohim.
Notice the use of the word "our". This is one of the most debated words in the Bible. Why? The father and the son and the spirit of love, if you drop the RCC trinity for what the bible really says, then it begins to make since.
If we want to live in a world of love and peace we need to act on it, indifference is not the path to peace.
This is how you "reconcile" the verses, by first recognizing what the universe looked like to the writers of the Old Testament.
This is the only way to reconcile all of the verses without contradiction.
Genesis 2:8
In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Genesis 3:24
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
John 11:26
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
John 10:27-28
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me.
John 8:51
Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.
What will you do when you are so complete that life no longer provides challenges for you? Will you sit and twiddle your thumbs for the rest of eternity? What does that do for you, in contrast to being an imperfect creature that experiences both pain and joy? A creature that is still capable of wonder and surprise?
Would you give up change for monotony? Give up the ability to be hurt for the inability to grow? If so, you are a sad, frightened little being who doesn't understand the first thing of what it is to truly live.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
Colossians says.
The New Testament says Jesus was the firstborn over all creation.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by sacgamer25
If we want to live in a world of love and peace we need to act on it, indifference is not the path to peace.
Neither is judgment...hint hint.
First you have to know what the Bible says. I realize you listen to recordings of the Bible being read but I don't think that is a substitute for real Bible study.
. . . every word both clarifies and simplifies what the bible really says.
Didn't you even read what I said about that?
The funny thing is "God is love".
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by sacgamer25
First you have to know what the Bible says. I realize you listen to recordings of the Bible being read but I don't think that is a substitute for real Bible study.
. . . every word both clarifies and simplifies what the bible really says.
I'm not convinced that you know what the Bible really says in order to be able to make interpretations of it.
edit on 20-3-2013 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
How is it so difficult to accept that it never says that?
If he is the "light" than he is still first. How is that complicated?
What is the light in Genesis 1:3 if I am wrong?
Who is the "US" in the creation account?
Why does Jesus claim he is the light? If he is not the light in Genesis 1:3 what is he referring too?
Why does the bible claim that Jesus is the firstborn over all creation and Jesus claim he is the light? When was Jesus born?
Why would God leave that out of the Genesis account?
Genesis God creates all matter, but is independent of it Earth is in darkness and chaos over the deep (Tehom).
Enuma Elish The Divine Spirits and cosmic matters coexist and are coeternal. There is a primeval chaos in which the gods war against the deep (Tiamat).
Genesis 1st day the creation of light Enuma Elish
Light emanates from the gods
Genesis 2nd day the dome of the sky is created
Enuma Elish creation of the firmament (dome)
Genesis 3rd day creation of dry land
Enuma Elish creation of dry land
Genesis 4th day creation of heavenly lights
Enuma Elish creation of heavenly lights
Genesis 5th day creation of animals --------
Genesis 6th day creation of man
Enuma Elish creation of man
Genesis God rests and sanctifies the sabbath
Enuma Elish the gods rest and celebrate with a banquet
www.skeptically.org...
How can Jesus be the son but be equal to the father? Why does Jesus say if you have seen me you have seen the father? Why does Jesus not find it blasphemy that he is considered equal to God and worthy of worship?
Geneis 3:
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us
Because God is love, Jesus is love.
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Jesus watched as the father sent the serpent to tempt Eve, knowing that the father had foreknowledge of the outcome. What did Eve and Adam eat, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The father intended to teach us both "GOOD" and "EVIL". He wanted us to learn so that we could love like intelligent beings and not like on command robots.
What am I saying that is in judgment of anyone? For which one of these concepts do you accuse me of judging you or anyone?
God is love.
Jesus is love.
Both the father and son love you.
Love keeps no records of wrongdoing.
I am bringing you a "love interpretation" that removes the boundaries set in place by Christianity, and all religions.
You can believe whatever you like, but I most certainly am not your judge, nor am I attempting to judge you or anyone. The choice to believe is yours, I am merely a man who has a message that he has received from God. God is love.
How is it so difficult to accept that it never says that?
It says in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with "God", and the Word was "God".
There is geometry in the humming of the strings, there is music in the spacing of the spheres. Read more at www.brainyquote.com...
It's also been established that "God" is composed of a Holy Trinity that is distinct within itself but a united entity to all others. Jesus was one of the three elements, which means he was there in the beginning because all three elements were engaged in their union long before the universe was born.