Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.

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posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now I have seen everything. I never thought I'd see the day where someone would actually claim Satan was the path to God and keep a straight face while doing it. Nothing else I'd have to say is particularly appropriate or fitting to such a family site as this.

However, I couldn't help but note the sheer novelty of seeing something I've heard to watch for, my entire life..and pretty well gave on actually seeing. I suppose I'll see a cow flapping it's lonely way over the moon, while driving home this evening. That really would make my experiences in life complete now.


I don't know if Satan is a path to God but I do know that Christianity is the only path to Satanism.



The evil Satan yes.
Not the one I speak of in the esoteric sense.

I do agree that Christian morals have been corrupted by their faith as they have to use a double standard to justify their God's immoral works.

Regards
DL




posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Greatest I am
 



Satan is God’s Champion., page


No. It is Jesus who is God's champion. He will destroy Satan's champion.
Satan is reviled by billions of people... thanks to the message delivered by the blessed prophets of God.



Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God.

According to....?


Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.

Satan is the master of his willing slaves.... those who think highly of him.



You did not even view what was given but even your own bible tells you that God murdered millions while Satan on a few.

Yet you adore your genocidal son murdering God.

So much for Christian morals.

No wonder you do not mind profiting from your God's murder of his son and riding your scapegoat Jesus into heav-- oh wait, that is the way to hell.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by RedbeardedFoo
I thought Satan was derived from the middle east term Shaitan which designated a "group of" not merely 1 entity....which ultimately leads us to the Djinn, so your saying this race of tricksters is our path to god huh? By the sound of the scream of one getting sent back to its # shadow of a realm, I doubt your claim holds water in end.


Satan, like Jesus and most other biblical characters are esoteric archetypal entities. If you would have reviewed what I gave in the O P you would know this.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by SpiritofEnoch

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Greatest I am
 



Satan is God’s Champion., page


No. It is Jesus who is God's champion. He will destroy Satan's champion.
Satan is reviled by billions of people... thanks to the message delivered by the blessed prophets of God.



Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God.

According to....?


Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.

Satan is the master of his willing slaves.... those who think highly of him.







You, too, have shown your foolishness.
Willing slaves? Then to whom are they a slave?
If you have any knowledge, you will recognize that Satan is the feeling of love for yourself in you.
Who do you think Satan loves? Himself or the one who can End His Existence At Any Moment?


No argument on your comment to our friend but I would like to correct you just a touch if you happen to be a seeker.

In esoteric terms, Jesus is within you and is the love part of your ego. Satan is the part that asks you to justify your Jesus-like thinking to improve it or correct it before you can ascend to the right hand of your God within.

Like the mythical Gods, we must all have good and evil being balanced and judged by the Jesus parts and Satan parts of our psyches. They duke it out, so to speak before your higher God mind.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 

I take it by your statement here that you simply have no Faith in anything above yourself or are you of another Faith? I'm personally not Christian...although I was raised that way. I maintain a strong respect for the Bible though and certainly don't go tempting fate or our Creator, whatever form(s) it may choose to take to each society over time.

I can't imagine the emptiness of a life totally devoid of belief, personally. Kinda depressing to think about.



So to not be depressed, you chose to follow a God that has no morals.
That sounds like the Stockholm Syndrome my friend.

As to your respect for the bible.

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It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

This indicates that Jesus had no choice.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

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Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.

In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.


You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberation.


Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by SpiritofEnoch
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
 


Ah, so it seems you're not as foolish as you sound.

What makes you so sure my "personal philosophy" is any worse than yours?

Edit: The only thing you can be a willful slave to is ignorance. But there is nothing hidden that will remain covered. So Satan ("adversary") is ignorance, darkness, etc. knowledge of the truth is light, God, etc.

IMHO!
Sorry. I forget to humble myself sometimes. Please, forgive me.
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If God is light and good, while Satan is evil and darkness, then the tree of knowledge of good and evil must have had it's evil side written by Satan while God wrote the good side.

Is that about right or did God dig up what was needed for the evil side of the tree from within himself.

You have painted yourself in a corner. Let's see you squeeze out.

Either Satan is God's co-creator or God has evil within him. Your choice.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now I have seen everything. I never thought I'd see the day where someone would actually claim Satan was the path to God and keep a straight face while doing it. Nothing else I'd have to say is particularly appropriate or fitting to such a family site as this.

However, I couldn't help but note the sheer novelty of seeing something I've heard to watch for, my entire life..and pretty well gave on actually seeing. I suppose I'll see a cow flapping it's lonely way over the moon, while driving home this evening. That really would make my experiences in life complete now.


I don't know if Satan is a path to God but I do know that Christianity is the only path to Satanism.



The evil Satan yes.
Not the one I speak of in the esoteric sense.

I do agree that Christian morals have been corrupted by their faith as they have to use a double standard to justify their God's immoral works.

Regards
DL


I just meant that Satan is a Christian concept so, unless you were once a Christian, you can't really believe in Satan. So I meant that as a literal statement. Satanists and Christians draw from the same pantheon.



posted on Apr, 1 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.

In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.


You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberation.


Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL


Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.
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posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now I have seen everything. I never thought I'd see the day where someone would actually claim Satan was the path to God and keep a straight face while doing it. Nothing else I'd have to say is particularly appropriate or fitting to such a family site as this.

However, I couldn't help but note the sheer novelty of seeing something I've heard to watch for, my entire life..and pretty well gave on actually seeing. I suppose I'll see a cow flapping it's lonely way over the moon, while driving home this evening. That really would make my experiences in life complete now.


I don't know if Satan is a path to God but I do know that Christianity is the only path to Satanism.



The evil Satan yes.
Not the one I speak of in the esoteric sense.

I do agree that Christian morals have been corrupted by their faith as they have to use a double standard to justify their God's immoral works.

Regards
DL


I just meant that Satan is a Christian concept so, unless you were once a Christian, you can't really believe in Satan. So I meant that as a literal statement. Satanists and Christians draw from the same pantheon.


Then I agree.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.

In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.


You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberation.


Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL


Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.
edit on 1-4-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)


If we follow the bible's story line of Jesus, he was awake when going to the desert for 40 days. He then confronted Satan and only later ascended to the right hand of God after his purification.

If you meld that with the flame of the holy spirit finding Jesus only after his baptism, it seems that Jesus is first, Satan or the flame of purification, so to speak, came next and then the God mind are the sequence of waking.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am


greatest I am
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.


Satan and God are the same being.


vethumanbeing
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberration that God planned.



greatest I am
Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL


The serpent is Lucifer, not Satan. I have such a problem with semantics.



vethumanbeing
Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.




If we follow the bible's story line of Jesus, he was awake when going to the desert for 40 days. He then confronted Satan and only later ascended to the right hand of God after his purification.
If you meld that with the flame of the holy spirit finding Jesus only after his baptism, it seems that Jesus is first, Satan or the flame of purification, so to speak, came next and then the God mind are the sequence of waking.


Lets not follow the biblical storyline. The God/Satan Satan/God precept with Jesus as its Son was fully planned and orchestrated beautifully. I do not believe he was awake when experiencing the desert. He found the confrontation involved his Father fully formed as both. He recognised at that moment that the sacrifice was not only for the human salvaging of souls but also of his own Creator. Now this thing involving the human, (idiocy as it wipes out all past, present and future bad behavior, sins of the flesh); cleanses that premise and in so doing no one is held accountable anymore because Jesus wiped all slates. Was Jesus acting as fiduciary for the human, because in my initial response he was not mentioned, only the three, God Satan and the human. Believe me when the events at Golgotha occured (and not a moment before) Jesus realised he was actually sacrificing himself in forgivenss of God/Satan Itself, his final laments prove it in the doubts he uttered about his own faith. He had no clue until his moment of death that physically he was to die horribly (who was testing who as to soul/spirit assension). I will tell you he believed someone would come to his aid. No superheros showed up.
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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 01:12 AM
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Satan is reviled by billions of people... thanks to the message delivered by the blessed prophets of God.


If Satan is the archenemy of god, then why is he only taking the souls that god has already condemned to hell? If Satan was truly an enemy he would be trying to kidnap the souls of those that god wants in heaven. At the very least, Satan is working for god, if you believe in such nonsense.



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 01:57 AM
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If Satan is the archenemy of god, then why is he only taking the souls that god has already condemned to hell? If Satan was truly an enemy he would be trying to kidnap the souls of those that god wants in heaven.,


You've got the plot all wrong.
Satan is the archenemy of man, not God.
Satan cant "kidnap" souls. Satan only has power over those who follow him, whether or not they acknowledge it. Those souls condemned to hell are those of people who follow Satan.



At the very least, Satan is working for god

Satan works for himself, and his work is to send as many humans astray as possible... before his day of judgement.
Satan will be condemned with all those humans who listen to him.


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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 01:57 AM
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If anybody is interested in a little story...

One day, a man who revered God happened to see some people worshiping a tree. He went home and picked up his axe, intending to chop the tree down. On the way back to the tree, Satan stopped him and asked him to spare the tree, because God would deal with the tree worshipers. The man changed his mind and went home.

The next day, he felt he should have cut down the tree and so took his axe and went back to cut the tree. Satan stopped him again saying if he spared the tree he would receive a certain amount of money everyday. The man agreed to the deal. For the first few days the man received the money promised by Satan, and he was happy.

One day the money stopped coming so the man became angry. He picked up his axe and started walking towards the tree to chop it down. But Satan stopped him and told the man if he goes any further he would kill him. The man asked Satan why and was told that the first time he intended to cut the tree down was because of his reverence for God, so Satan had no power to stop him. He only successfully negotiated to spare the tree.
But the second time around, the man spared the tree for Satan's money, not because of reverence for God. So Satan got power over the man, at least as far as the particular tree was concerned... and the man could no longer cut down the tree that was being worshiped.

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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 05:57 PM
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Enlil wins!

Metallica - God Who Failed

Mankind dies!

Revelation was a jinx!



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 06:04 PM
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If god knew that people would want to prove the bible wrong you would write a happy ending to make a disaster one. Using mankinds own stupididty against them.

You would also write clues in the bible that give those in power the freedom to break universal laws. That by a galactic government standpoint would have punishments that on a earthly scale would be lots of prison time.

So if god knows he's a jinx and people in the future who have lost faith which is also for seen will go out of there way to prove it wrong.

Why not force mankind through scripture into it's own destruction?

Good point!



posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Greatest I am


greatest I am
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.


Satan and God are the same being.


vethumanbeing
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberration that God planned.



greatest I am
Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL


The serpent is Lucifer, not Satan. I have such a problem with semantics.



vethumanbeing
Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.




If we follow the bible's story line of Jesus, he was awake when going to the desert for 40 days. He then confronted Satan and only later ascended to the right hand of God after his purification.
If you meld that with the flame of the holy spirit finding Jesus only after his baptism, it seems that Jesus is first, Satan or the flame of purification, so to speak, came next and then the God mind are the sequence of waking.


Lets not follow the biblical storyline. The God/Satan Satan/God precept with Jesus as its Son was fully planned and orchestrated beautifully. I do not believe he was awake when experiencing the desert. He found the confrontation involved his Father fully formed as both. He recognised at that moment that the sacrifice was not only for the human salvaging of souls but also of his own Creator. Now this thing involving the human, (idiocy as it wipes out all past, present and future bad behavior, sins of the flesh); cleanses that premise and in so doing no one is held accountable anymore because Jesus wiped all slates. Was Jesus acting as fiduciary for the human, because in my initial response he was not mentioned, only the three, God Satan and the human. Believe me when the events at Golgotha occured (and not a moment before) Jesus realised he was actually sacrificing himself in forgivenss of God/Satan Itself, his final laments prove it in the doubts he uttered about his own faith. He had no clue until his moment of death that physically he was to die horribly (who was testing who as to soul/spirit assension). I will tell you he believed someone would come to his aid. No superheros showed up.
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20; 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

I agree with your scenario as Jesus would not blame men for being as they are but would blame the creator for creating us as is.

Regards
DL



posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Lets not follow the biblical storyline. The God/Satan Satan/God precept with Jesus as its Son was fully planned and orchestrated beautifully. I do not believe he was awake when experiencing the desert. He found the confrontation involved his Father fully formed as both. He recognised at that moment that the sacrifice was not only for the human salvaging of souls but also of his own Creator. Now this thing involving the human, (idiocy as it wipes out all past, present and future bad behavior, sins of the flesh); cleanses that premise and in so doing no one is held accountable anymore because Jesus wiped all slates. Was Jesus acting as fiduciary for the human, because in my initial response he was not mentioned, only the three, God Satan and the human. Believe me when the events at Golgotha occured (and not a moment before) Jesus realised he was actually sacrificing himself in forgivenss of God/Satan Itself, his final laments prove it in the doubts he uttered about his own faith. He had no clue until his moment of death that physically he was to die horribly (who was testing who as to soul/spirit assension). I will tell you he believed someone would come to his aid. No superheros showed up.



greatest I am[/]
20; 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,I agree with your scenario as Jesus would not blame men for being as they are but would blame the creator for creating us as is.


Who else is there to take rein of. The human is a pitiable unaware creature. It has no clue to ask even in this 'modern' day and age of enlightenment the basic questions "who am I and why am I here; what is my fate and destiny". Jesus knew of its own ultimate betrayel, I can assure you the future of the human race was the last thing on his mind; it was the failure of its Creator to let him in on the secret; that betrayal of family. He knew not his physical father, his physical mother or his siblings, and was left to die alone. The Creator is an invisable; suffering from delusional self importance; living through (too closely incestuously) its creations (NOT ALLOWED NO WAY), corrupting itself falling in frequency and spoiling the chance for the human to rise above anything other or beyond its own death (no ones telling) whatever that entails. SURPRISE DEAD MEANS DEAD; or wait a minute was there not an eternal life thingy thrown in somewhere?
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posted on Apr, 5 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing


Who else is there to take rein of. The human is a pitiable unaware creature. It has no clue to ask even in this 'modern' day and age of enlightenment the basic questions "who am I and why am I here; ]


What is pitiable is that people are not happy with the answer to that question as it places the onus on themselves and they prefer to have the onus on some other. We all want a sugar daddy.

All any need do is look at their own history from birth to where ever and whenever they are when they ask the question and the answer becomes obvious. Try it yourself.

What have you been doing all of these years?

Regards
DL





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