Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
[quotem.cancer.gov...://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/asbestosOriginally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein
I have been a smoker, I have not been a smoker, so I have heen around both smokers and nonsmokers.
Your being ridiculous if your claiming your wife got dizzy from others smoking an electronic cigarette, it is about a hundred times more likely she
stood too fast after eating, when the blood rushes to your digestive tract, and so got a moment of lightheadedness.
I believe your just one of the types to complain about anything someone else does that you dont like, and are attempting to make a mountain out of a
mole hill over nothing.
You didnt seem to mind the asbestos you were putting in the air every time you hit the brakes in your car, which is hundreds of times more dangerous
than smoking any amount of cigarettes.
So just remeber next time you wanna get all preachy about a non issue, your driving alone has caused more asbestosis related deaths than cigarettes,
so stop driving your car, or stop complaining until you do, as your activities are way worse for more people than every e cig out there combined,
though I am sure you already know tha. Like most humans though, your activities are just fine, it is everyone elses that are the problem.
I still gave you a star and flag, as it was worth knowing, I just find your position on the subject to be hypocritical at least.
You know that brakes are asbestos free now a days, right?
Non-asbestos brake pads were introduced in the 1990s. At first they were not suitable for use in heavy-duty vehicles. As a result, asbestos
brake pads were not suddenly eliminated, but slowly phased out.
And no I don't complain about anyting other than things that are forced upon me and my family like this......I make the decision to not breathe this
Smokers just need to stay outside, that's all I am saying....
edit on 3/19/2013 by Chrisfishenstein because: (no reason given)
Hey bud I have been working on cars for almost 25 years now, the industry standard for "asbestos free" doesnt mean there isnt any, it means they are
less than the industry standard, which is not 0 btw, there is still a lot in brake pads, whichnis why it is illegal for a garage to grind your soes
down like the used to do, because it will be released into the air.
Think about obama redefining enemy combatant to any 18 plus year old around a bomb strike, to oimit collateral damage, it is the same thing.
Everyone freaked about it when they discovered asbestosis, and demanded asbestos free brakes, there sadly is not anither material yet that can cost
effectively resist heat and friction as well as it can, it is still an essential component of automobile brakes today, just as it always has been.
Here is a link to a .gov source, you shoukd trust that one.
Asbestos has been mined and used commercially in North America since the late 1800s. Its use increased greatly during World War II (3, 4). Since
then, asbestos has been used in many industries. For example, the building and construction industries have used it for strengthening cement and
plastics as well as for insulation, roofing, fireproofing, and sound absorption. The shipbuilding industry has used asbestos to insulate boilers,
steam pipes, and hot water pipes. The automotive industry uses asbestos in vehicle brake shoes and clutch pads. Asbestos has also been used in ceiling
and floor tiles; paints, coatings, and adhesives; and plastics. In addition, asbestos has been found in vermiculite-containing garden products and
some talc-containing crayons.In the late 1970s, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) banned the use of asbestos in wallboard patching
compounds and gas fireplaces because the asbestos fibers in these products could be released into the environment during use. In addition,
manufacturers of electric hairdryers voluntarily stopped using asbestos in their products in 1979. In 1989, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA) banned all new uses of asbestos; however, uses developed before 1989 are still allowed. The EPA also established regulations that require school
systems to inspect buildings for the presence of damaged asbestos and to eliminate or reduce asbestos exposure to occupants by removing the asbestos
or encasing it (2).
Now just as you wanted to pitch a complait tent, so am I, stop driving your car or stfu abiut electronic cigarettes.
Only new types of its use have been banned, car brakes existed before the 89 cut off date, so it is fair game for use.
They only changed the definition of contains asbestos to mean at the industry standard or lower is asbestos free.