Survivalist faces charges for teaching in self-built school, page 1

Eustace Conway has lived in the wilderness of the Appalachian Mountains for 30 years, detached from modern society. Now, he wants to teach others his survival skills – but the state of North Carolina has slammed him with a series of violations.

The 51-year-old man has traveled from coast to coast on a horse, faced down a grizzly bear, defeated a thrashing buck with his bare hands, grown his own food, hunted game, made clothes out of animal skin, and survived harsh winters on snow-capped mountains.

The Watauga County planning department has slammed Conway with a 78-page report outlining the health and sanitary violations of Turtle Island. The county claims that Conway’s open-air kitchen and toilets made of sawdust are not permissible for a public facility. And unless the common area has a conventional restroom, fire sprinklers and smoke detectors, his entire camp must remain shut down.

rt.com...

Wow.. The really do not want anyone to know how to survive in the wild.. Maybe he should run the camp on donations, so people are not actually paying for it.. I do wonder whether he has a disclaimer or not.. There must be some way around this situation..

This guy must know a hell of a lot and could teach many important survival skills to the average person who knows nothing about survival..

What do ATS think...

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LOL

Sorry dude..! Accidentally pressed the enter button instead of tab when I had inserted my title.. Bit on the slow side this morn

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I kind of agree with the city on this one.
If a business wants to do business, then conform to the rules and laws of business.
Otherwise, we would have corporations breaking all sorts of environmental laws and getting away with god knows what!
Hmmm...wait a minute...

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Otherwise, we would have corporations breaking all sorts of environmental laws and getting away with god knows what!

Lol. They are already doing that regardless of rules and regulations. They are above the law..

If a business wants to do business, then conform to the rules and laws of business.

There are businesses similar to this. For example I have a friend on the mainland of Scotland that makes yurts. He has 2 set up on his land and a teepee too.. He hires them out and is always fully booked about 18months in advance. There is a compost toilet available to customers, fresh running water, a bathroom and a small outside kitchen. However there are no fire alarms or smoke detectors. Yet he has had people inspect and has never had a problem.. But this is in Scotland, not America.

There are many people out there who would and do pay a lot of money to come and stay in places like this. To have a break from the tireless chaos of modern day life..
I have had a look at the pictures of the Turtle Island Preserve and it looks like a campsite with teepees and some small cabin huts.. It does not look unsanitary or dangerous..

Does this mean they will make camping illegal..? When we go out and camp we set a fire, use the land as our toilet and have to fend for ourselves. We might eat a diseased animal, we might eat the wrong berry, we might set our tent on fire. How do the modern day trappings possibly fit in there.. We do everything at our own risk. We are responsible for our own actions.

All this man is doing is educating people. The people that go will be aware that this establishment is free from most modern day trappings.. And I would imagine many of them will understand that they go there at their own risk..

I have found this:

Important Liability Waiver - Read before entering: Please be aware that Turtle Island Preserve is NOT LIABLE for your safety, health or any impairment of it. Enter at your own risk. Your presence represents your acknowledgement that you accept full liability for any damage to your person or property. This applies to everyone on the property or associated with Turtle Island Preserve.

www.turtleislandpreserve.com...

I am not sure how a disclaimer works in the US. How does this work in correlation with county rules and regulations..

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I think for starters he is a different kind of business. It is about education of survival. How are people meant to be able to survive if they never have a chance to experience being in 'the wild' when they will have to rely on their own knowledge and skill to survive. Especially if we constantly have all these modern trappings surrounding us..

And seeing as we are having more major disasters, now more than ever the people of the world should be taught how to survive if the SHTF...

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This kind of stuff pisses me off so much.

I understand certain rules and regulations, but to shut down everything of his? Over those minor things?

Leave the guy alone. Its his property, his choices.

Oh wait, not its not... the government is God.

Yes masah... take my land... take my freedom... yes masah, I'll sign up for welfare and suck your teet, masah...

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It is not just kids that he educates.. It is adults also. All people from all different walks of life.. Check out the website.

www.turtleislandpreserve.com...

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Legally, yes. Common sense, no.
The army (the government) can pay people to learn these things to do it's will.
The people (the former government) cannot pay a person to teach them to do their own will.

What bunk.

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I think if he did what you suggested it would kind of defeat the purpose. The idea is to educate people on survival.. In a survival situation where are you going to get your hands on bleach or sterilising cleaners..?

This is what he means by not having any of the modern day trappings... It is possible to have a sanitary and hygienic outside toilet that is not your conventional loo..

This man is not stupid.. He has lived in snow capped mountains for 30 years. He is still alive and very healthy after those 30 years, despite him not having a conventional toilet and bleach for all that time..

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