JUDAISM FROM THE TALMUD

reply to post by asher


You really need to stop getting your information about Judaism from hate groups and paranoid lunatics. Try reading this page:

talmud.faithweb.com...

On a personal note, not only did I find the content of your post ignorant, I find the fact that you style yourself a "Zen Master" to be offensive.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
the talmud was re written (for the victors) after the fall of the temple.

this is from that version.

those are not their true beliefs!

The Talmud didn't exist at the time of the temple. Are you a liar, or has someone told you and you believed it?

But I saw your other posts, about how you think the Bible should be interpreted.

You are a liar.

The "Talmud" is an invention of evil.

And yes, many "Jews" today do indeed consider the Talmud some kind of a holy book.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by asher

 

You really need to stop getting your information about Judaism from hate groups and paranoid lunatics. Try reading this page:

talmud.faithweb.com...

On a personal note, not only did I find the content of your post ignorant, I find the fact that you style yourself a "Zen Master" to be offensive.

You really need to do more research instead of defending blindly that which is evil.

In continuing to have pride in blood, you will lose your blood. But if you drink the water of life, then you will have the Spirit of life.

reply to post by Hongkongphooey


i mentioned that this had more to do with the rothschilds khazars and zionist than all jews of the world. just because some priest assault little boys doesnt make all catholics bad. and just because a small group of radical muslims suicide bomb doesnt mean all of them are evil. but if you look at the way jerusalem was created and what they are doing to the people of Palestine then you should without a doubt be able to see that it is evil. what do you think about the zionist jews using the same tactics nazis used to push the palestinian people out of there homes and into exile?

reply to post by DJW001


i dont want any information on judaism. as i mentioned earlier i dont care about the religious aspect of this issue. no matter what institution you use you cannot justify the actions of zionist jews in israel and across the world. quit nit picking at the irrelevant crap in my profile and follow the thread because i dont care about what you personally like

reply to post by TarzanBeta

You really need to do more research instead of defending blindly that which is evil.

Distorting an historical document to portray a religion and/or people as being evil is in itself evil. The intent of the OP is to fan hatred. That is evil. Your blind defense of him is at best ignorant.

In continuing to have pride in blood, you will lose your blood. But if you drink the water of life, then you will have the Spirit of life.

I have no idea how to respond to this word salad.

Originally posted by asher
what do you think about the zionist jews using the same tactics nazis used to push the palestinian people out of there homes and into exile?

What do YOU think about lapping up the same type of anti-Semitic drivel that propelled the Nazi murder of the Jews?

I think you need to get out more...maybe drop by a deli and put faces to those you are demonising .

"OMG...here comes the Joooos!!!"

Schmucks, the lot of you!

reply to post by asher

i dont want any information on judaism. as i mentioned earlier i dont care about the religious aspect of this issue. no matter what institution you use you cannot justify the actions of zionist jews in israel and across the world. quit nit picking at the irrelevant crap in my profile and follow the thread because i dont care about what you personally like

If you don't care about the religious aspects, why did you bring them up? Why not talk about the actions of the Zionist Jews in Israel in the Middle East forum? It is clear that you do not care what anyone but your fellow hate mongers like. This is not an attitude that will allow you to persuade anyone but the already converted.

Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
reply to post by asher

 

As a Jew, this is news to me? I was taught the torah not the talmud, the majority of jews follow the torah (THE LAW) not the talmud!

Another thread to hate on Jews without any evidence!

Neither myself, family or any Jews I know practice what you claim. Nor do we own America, Amazon or even banks!

Some Jewish families are part of the wealthy elite, I have no doubt but then so are there Christian wealthy elite but i don't hear much about them (because they are probably behind the lies about Jews to cover their own atrocious behaviour, lies and corruption).

The majority of Jews are just normal hard working family people!

Whilst I no longer follow religion of any kind, I find this blind ignorant hatred of Jews on ATS to be disgusting!

Disguise it however you will, it is still the same old pile of #e!

edit on 19/3/13 by Hongkongphooey because: typo

first you say you are a jew and then you say you no longer follow religion. if you look at this information you will see that jews do in fact own the federal reserve and run the media of america. just look it up yourself dont take my word for it. ad in how much of our tax dollars go to israel and how our politicians are puppets for their agenda.

reply to post by asher

first you say you are a jew and then you say you no longer follow religion. if you look at this information you will see that jews do in fact own the federal reserve and run the media of america. just look it up yourself dont take my word for it. ad in how much of our tax dollars go to israel and how our politicians are puppets for their agenda.

Unfortunately, whether or not one practices a particular religion does not matter to those who choose to scapegoat a particular group for their own feelings of inadequacy. Hitler killed Jews who were avowed atheists. Skinheads in Russia beat up Chechens who have never even seen the Quran. Egyptians stone Copts who have never set foot in a church. Hatred does not make fine distinctions.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by asher
what do you think about the zionist jews using the same tactics nazis used to push the palestinian people out of there homes and into exile?

What do YOU think about lapping up the same type of anti-Semitic drivel that propelled the Nazi murder of the Jews?

I think you need to get out more...maybe drop by a deli and put faces to those you are demonising .

"OMG...here comes the Joooos!!!"

Schmucks, the lot of you!

why did you not answer that question? it wasnt rhetorical. i would like to know your opinion.

Originally posted by asher
reply to post by Hongkongphooey

 

i mentioned that this had more to do with the rothschilds khazars and zionist than all jews of the world. just because some priest assault little boys doesnt make all catholics bad. and just because a small group of radical muslims suicide bomb doesnt mean all of them are evil. but if you look at the way jerusalem was created and what they are doing to the people of Palestine then you should without a doubt be able to see that it is evil. what do you think about the zionist jews using the same tactics nazis used to push the palestinian people out of there homes and into exile?

I hope you don't accuse me of being off topic when I answer your question?
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I do not agree with much of the tactics Israel uses against the Palestinians but I can understand their reactions as they also live in fear of their lives. they wrongly have believed for the past 40+ years that when they are attacked they have to teach the Palestinians/Arabs a lesson so that they think twice about attacking again. Obviously, it does not work, does it? I think they should rethink their response.

The problem exists because in 1967 several Arab countries were massing on Israel's borders banging on about how they would drive the Jews into the sea. The Israeli's pre-empted them and drove them back gaining much land in the process its called war!

Israel gained the West Bank from Jordan, Gaza and The Sinai from Egypt and have since given most of this land back to the Palestinians (not Jordan) and Egypt. Up until this time (1967) Jerusalem was split between East and West, Israel won the land and they now consider Jerusalem as theirs!

Under Israeli rule Muslims, Christians and Jews are allowed to worship freely in Jerusalem. Jews are subject to the same security checks that Christians and Muslims face (including millions of tourists).

Understanding the reality of the situation is that 'Palestine' was occupied by nomadic tribes of arabs, Jews and Christians for the past 2 thousand years and when the nation of Israel was being discussed as new country set for independence, several Arab nations such as Israel, Jordan and Syria were pushing their unwanted poor people into the area now in dispute, to trade off against a Jewish population, thus creating the Palestinian people eventually. What they did was in fact claim the area as part of Pan Arabria and a Palestinian nation was never even spoken about until after 1967 (19 years after the declaration of independence by Israel).

Did you know that neither Yasser Arafat nor Abbas are Palestinian? Arafat was Egyptian and Abbas is Jordanian.

Personally, I would like to see all sides make peace, Israel traded lots of land for peace, did they get peace??? Perhaps, they have realised that if they keep trading land for peace and never get peace then thay had better stop before they have no more land to trade with.

The real problem I see now is both sides 'playing to the media' to gain support, Israel used to be quite good at this however, the Palestinians have now taken this to a new level with their Pallywood productions and sometimes this backfires on them tremendously when proven false.

What both sides needs are brave new leaders who say enough is enough, I want my children to grow up and live side by side without the hatred. Unfortunately with the brainwashing and hatred on both sides, I fear it will be a long time coming!

Today bothe the Israeli's and Palestinians deserve their own homeland, what the Palestinians have yet to realise is that they can have it if only they stop sending rockets into Israel. The West bank is generally peaceful and thriving right now, Gaza is its own worst enemy.

They have a saying in Israel 'their will be peace, when the Arabs learn to love their children as much as we love ur children'.

We can only live in hope.

reply to post by asher

why did you not answer that question? it wasnt rhetorical. i would like to know your opinion.

I'll answer that question for him. The Israelis did not nor do not use the same tactics as the Nazis. The Nazis were bent on genocide, and murdered innocent people in cold blood or exploited them as slave labor.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by asher

 

first you say you are a jew and then you say you no longer follow religion. if you look at this information you will see that jews do in fact own the federal reserve and run the media of america. just look it up yourself dont take my word for it. ad in how much of our tax dollars go to israel and how our politicians are puppets for their agenda.

Unfortunately, whether or not one practices a particular religion does not matter to those who choose to scapegoat a particular group for their own feelings of inadequacy. Hitler killed Jews who were avowed atheists. Skinheads in Russia beat up Chechens who have never even seen the Quran. Egyptians stone Copts who have never set foot in a church. Hatred does not make fine distinctions.

what you just said is true. but it still doest change anything i said about the khazars. im not the one pushing people out of there homes. israel is doing to palistine what the nazis did to them and that is in no way justified.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by asher

 

why did you not answer that question? it wasnt rhetorical. i would like to know your opinion.

I'll answer that question for him. The Israelis did not nor do not use the same tactics as the Nazis. The Nazis were bent on genocide, and murdered innocent people in cold blood or exploited them as slave labor.

i didnt ask you. im pretty sure he can speak for himself were all big boys here. now my question to you is what makes you think you can speak for someone you dont even know without their permission?

reply to post by asher

what you just said is true. but it still doest change anything i said about the khazars. im not the one pushing people out of there homes. israel is doing to palistine what the nazis did to them and that is in no way justified.

Why is it you can't seem to see the difference between a territorial dispute and genocide? And why did you post this rubbish in the Religion forum when you seem to be more interested in the Middle East aspect? Why are you so impassioned about the Palestinians, but not the Tibetans or Chechens?

Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
reply to post by asher

 

As a Jew, this is news to me? I was taught the torah not the talmud, the majority of jews follow the torah (THE LAW) not the talmud!

Another thread to hate on Jews without any evidence!

Neither myself, family or any Jews I know practice what you claim. Nor do we own America, Amazon or even banks!

Some Jewish families are part of the wealthy elite, I have no doubt but then so are there Christian wealthy elite but i don't hear much about them (because they are probably behind the lies about Jews to cover their own atrocious behaviour, lies and corruption).

The majority of Jews are just normal hard working family people!

Whilst I no longer follow religion of any kind, I find this blind ignorant hatred of Jews on ATS to be disgusting!

Disguise it however you will, it is still the same old pile of #e!

edit on 19/3/13 by Hongkongphooey because: typo

if you no longer follow religion of any kind then you are not Jewish, unless you think being jewish is more than faith, what is it, bloodline, racial?

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by asher
what do you think about the zionist jews using the same tactics nazis used to push the palestinian people out of there homes and into exile?

What do YOU think about lapping up the same type of anti-Semitic drivel that propelled the Nazi murder of the Jews?

I think you need to get out more...maybe drop by a deli and put faces to those you are demonising .

"OMG...here comes the Joooos!!!"

Schmucks, the lot of you!

how about we drop criticism of Jews as being the same as being National SOCIALIST, how about that

I don't wail on those criticising Christianity and throw up the many murders committed by people who have serious issues with Christianity

reply to post by asher

i didnt ask you. im pretty sure he can speak for himself were all big boys here. now my question to you is what makes you think you can speak for someone you dont even know without their permission?

I doubt he will be returning here to answer your question. Of course, I cannot speak for him, but only offer my own response. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but freedom of speech is freedom of speech.

Originally posted by asher

Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
reply to post by asher

 

As a Jew, this is news to me? I was taught the torah not the talmud, the majority of jews follow the torah (THE LAW) not the talmud!

Another thread to hate on Jews without any evidence!

Neither myself, family or any Jews I know practice what you claim. Nor do we own America, Amazon or even banks!

Some Jewish families are part of the wealthy elite, I have no doubt but then so are there Christian wealthy elite but i don't hear much about them (because they are probably behind the lies about Jews to cover their own atrocious behaviour, lies and corruption).

The majority of Jews are just normal hard working family people!

Whilst I no longer follow religion of any kind, I find this blind ignorant hatred of Jews on ATS to be disgusting!

Disguise it however you will, it is still the same old pile of #e!

edit on 19/3/13 by Hongkongphooey because: typo

first you say you are a jew and then you say you no longer follow religion. if you look at this information you will see that jews do in fact own the federal reserve and run the media of america. just look it up yourself dont take my word for it. ad in how much of our tax dollars go to israel and how our politicians are puppets for their agenda.

Yes some Jews (Rothschilds) own part of the Federal Reserve as do some Christians (I don't see you villifying them???) I probably know a whole lot more about this subject than you as I have been studying conspiracies for over 25 years. yes your tax dollars go to Israel and they buy US made military equipment back with it. They do not put it in their pockets and live the rich life, most Israeli's are struggling financially just like most Americans and Europeans are. The media is owned also by Jews and Christians (not exclusively Jews).

I was born and raised a Jew by my Jewish family, it doesn't mean that i follow religion now that i have grown up and seem all religions for what they are - Control mechanisms, to keep the people down! Under the thumb!

If you had done your research properly you would see that all roads lead to Rome after all the Rothschilds got their wealth when they became the Vatican's bankers in the middle ages, who do you think gives the orders? I will give you a clue - the worlds richest organisation and it's NOT Jewish!

if you follow the money you will find that most of the power lies not just in Rome, but Switzerland too!

Try to find out about the original followers of the 'messiah' and their decendents 'The Star families' who pull the strings from behind the curtains.

it's only about those evil joooos because those that really control and do evil want a scapegoat and people like you fall for this nonsense hook, line and sinker! Whilst your so busy blaming Jews, you can't see the real picture or the hidden hand!