Politically, and racially, there will always be people who think that President Obama is 'wrong', even when he is right.

As for making the planet / country better off by getting further away from fossil fuels and less pollution; it can't hurt.

Let us for the sake of argument say, in the next 5-10 years we manage to switch the country up to 40% solar/wind/alternative energy, drop nuclear & coal down to 0% , and hold fossil fuels at or to 60% use. At the current rate of production of fossil fuels we'd have an over abundance of oil/gas and the price would have to drop. (Or if you are more cynical like me, be artificially inflated to cost more....)

If at the same time technology improves the efficiency of gas powered vehicles, and reduces pollution as well; while the alternative power industry grows, it'd pay off in several ways.

1- Less pollution.
2- No dependence on external supplies of fossil fuel.
3- Less need for war to secure access to it.

M.

If he really cared, why not focus on magnets that have proven to work. It outlives humans by 150 years and place in the correct angles can create perpetual rotation for good.

All of these money to search for clean energy is a waste of money because it already exist.

Originally posted by amfirst1
If he really cared, why not focus on magnets that have proven to work. It outlives humans by 150 years and place in the correct angles can create perpetual rotation for good.

All of these money to search for clean energy is a waste of money because it already exist.

Are there enough magnets to go around to do the job?

Oil is here to stay, Lets take just plastic water bottles for example.If you fill the bottle one third full of oil (33%), that's the amount of oil needed to make one plastic bottle. this is based on not material to make the bottle but how much oil is used to manufacture, ship and store the bottle. Throw in plastic bags, plastic cell phones, plastic in cars, plastic in pretty much everything and you get. Oil is here to stay.

rush gets the credit for good things, obama gets blame for bad things

What has Obama done to increase oil drilling in America? Anything? Or does he happen to be the sitting Prez while the so called "evil" corporations are developing and perfecting new technologies to get the oil. So far the net result is gas is higher in cost than ever before.

Originally posted by jjkenobi
What has Obama done to increase oil drilling in America? Anything? Or does he happen to be the sitting Prez while the so called "evil" corporations are developing and perfecting new technologies to get the oil. So far the net result is gas is higher in cost than ever before.

so when obama gets the blame for the gas prices, that just as crazy right ?

It really depends on what his administration is perceived to have done to help or hinder the effort. (And charges of racism here are a cheap shot. Isn't it time you got over yourselves?) Obama's administration has put many obstacles in the way of energy independence. He opposed the Keystone pipeline. He closed down offshore drilling. He won't allow exploration of federal lands. The EPA, in particular has made life incredibly difficult for energy producers.

He has also vilified the oil companies, claiming they don't pay their fair share of taxes when, in truth, the government makes more money off a gallon of gas than the oil companies do. His administration is certainly not the only one that has put barriers on energy growth. Nearly every administration has done it while still proclaiming the goal is energy independence.

In the present case I do not believe Obama, the person, is particularly to blame here. he's a puppet who is being played by people like Valerie Jarrett and other ideologues in the government who would like to see America fail.

Originally posted by schuyler


In the present case I do not believe Obama, the person, is particularly to blame here. he's a puppet who is being played by people like Valerie Jarrett and other ideologues in the government who would like to see America fail.

I wonder if the likes of Valerie Jarrett can stop the entrepreneurial spirit of true blooded Americans. I suppose we'll have to read the history books to find out. Heh?

I live in coal country, and Obama PROMISED to take down the coal industry. He's doing a bang up job on it too, as coal fired power plants are going off line and new (read job creating) ones are not being built.

THE Ohio State University just developed a clean coal system that is fascinating as away to NO burn but steam/clean coal for energy. Couple that with the amazing resources of the Utica and Marcellus shale formations, and the "Rust Belt" (OH, western PA, WV) become Saudi Arabia. Hydraulic fracturing has been done SAFELY for years (no matter what world renowned energy expert Yoko Ono says) in geology LIKE PA, WV, OH. Now that it's becoming profitable the Feds (EPA) are swooping in. This is a states rights issue if EVER there was one.

Obama's EPA is effectively putting federal land drilling OFF LIMITS; has stymied the noted Keystone Pipeline (deferring to the Greenies oh and supporters like Warren Buffet whose trains instead transport the tar sands products south from Canada). Lets see what they "do" to the shale states....leave us alone (allow state environmental agencies to determine state regs) or have will the EPA descend with "one size fits all" micro regulations?

As to the economic impact of shale in the Northeast--go from northern PA to upstate southern upstate NY. The poverty of "green" (the electoral by product of liberal Manhattanites) mandates is stunning. PA is booming and miles away in NY nothing.

Originally posted by jjkenobi
What has Obama done to increase oil drilling in America? Anything? Or does he happen to be the sitting Prez while the so called "evil" corporations are developing and perfecting new technologies to get the oil. So far the net result is gas is higher in cost than ever before.

Who really runs corporate America? A socialist president giving the socialist voters lip service for what they want to hear? Or the corporations who make the socialist so angry when they are shopping in Walmart?

So, does Obama become vindicated by the majority of Americans if America becomes energy independent....or vilified by the majority of Americans?

What does the majority really think?

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Originally posted by Moshpet


If at the same time technology improves the efficiency of gas powered vehicles, and reduces pollution as well; while the alternative power industry grows, it'd pay off in several ways.

1- Less pollution.
2- No dependence on external supplies of fossil fuel.
3- Less need for war to secure access to it.

M.

Ironically, global warming would create the necessary environmental needs to create more hydrocarbons...hence, more fossil fuel.

Originally posted by coltcall
According to this report, America is becoming energy independent.

I'm not buying the report. It's NBC .. which is the shill machine for the Obama administration. If there were other sources claiming the same thing ... more independent sources or at least multiple sources ... then I'd consider it.

I don't see us becoming energy independent at all. Not at all ...