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Heaven or Heavens. You will see this difference in some Bibles, but Heaven is always Heavens in the Bible and means the sky, eternity or horizon. It
is reference to what we would call the great unknown.
"I believe the connection that the Hebrews made between God and his "host" is that they can see the "sheet" of the skies but they cannot see beyond
it, neither can they see or even speculate on what is beyond that sheet. The Ancient Hebrew mind did not concern itself with things they could not
see, hear, feel, smell or touch. It is Greek thinking that delves into the philosophy of the unknown. The Hebrew word "olam" is usually translated as
"eternity" or "forever". This word literally means "what is beyond the horizon" or "hidden". To the Hebrews God is olam, not eternal but "unknown" or
The word heavens is shamayim, which is SKY
What is hell?
6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with
everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual
immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
15.9 And evil spirits came out from their flesh, because from above they
were created, from the Holy Watchers was their origin and first foundation.
Evil spirits they will be on Earth and ‘Spirits of the Evil Ones’ they will be
15.10 And the dwelling of the Spirits of Heaven is Heaven, but the
dwelling of the spirits of the Earth, who were born on the Earth, is Earth.
15.11 And the spirits of the giants do wrong, are corrupt, attack, fight,
break on the Earth, and cause sorrow. And they eat no food, do not thirst,
and are not observed.
Those spirits are us to some extend. Baptism is entering the bodies of flesh. We cannot escape without Christ. Salvation is this escape gateway
back to the heavens.
Between Heaven and Hell, there is a transitional state of the material world. Baptism is immersion into water. For mankind, this immersion into a
body is for one reason--to repent. For angels, it is the same. Some angels left their first estate due to selfishness and sin within their hearts.
They corrupted the Earth, which is a refinery for mankind.
In 1 Kings 17, we find the key to baptism pictured by Elijah, who was later the incarnation of John the Baptist. Elijah shows a parable of the widow
woman of Zarephath. The word Zarephath means refinery. In this parable, Elijah shuts off the waters at the beginning and life starts to end for the
people of the region. The widow woman's son dies and Elijah takes him up the stairs to his chamber (Heaven), restores his soul to the body, then
brings him back down again. This is a picture of immersion of the soul into water from heaven to Earth. Earth is the refinery.
Now, return to Heaven again. What is Heaven? Our inheritance.
19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and
worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the
iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.
What is he saying here? When you look to the skys, don't worship them. Instead, realize where you are now. You are in a refinery. What does a
refinery use? FIRE. What puts out the fires of the trials of hell? Water. The same sun that melts wax and makes plants grow also hardens clay.
Water keeps the clay soft so it can be shaped. God is the potter and we are the clay. Christ is the living waters.
18 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 “Go down to the potter’s house, and there I will give you my message.” 3 So I went
down to the potter’s house, and I saw him working at the wheel. 4 But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter
formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.
5 Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the
hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8
and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I
announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the
good I had intended to do for it.
Israel is the land we come to here in this kingdom when we cross over from Egypt (Babylon). Belief in God is that crossing point of the Jordan (River
of Life). When we leave Egypt, we enter the promised land, but we must traverse the wilderness first.
The new Heaven and Earth await after a few baptisms. We must gain union with the Spirit of God first. Read John 3 to know how.
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