What The Mark Could Be, page 1

In the book of (Revelation) it says..."And that no man might buy or sell, except he that had the mark,..."

Today I heard about (Google glasses)...which are worn on the head...

Link: www.techradar.com...

Then I got to thinking is there any technology about computers worn on the wrist...and I found this...

Link: news.cnet.com...

So...what if in the future...the systems are set up by TPTB...so that no one can buy or sell except by these head and wrist computers of the future?

Now...this is just a theory of mine...but could these head and wrist computers be tied in with the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation?

reply to post by caladonea

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So you really think that the Revelations spoke of some high tech from the future ?




Carry on...

reply to post by caladonea

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I believe it is entirely possible. It may be stretching a bit, but I think that this "need" that a lot of people have to always get the newest technological gadget (which I feel has been slowly programmed into us) feeds into your idea. The Bible says that the mark will be taken willingly, and people cannot wait to jump on the latest technology band wagon. They will wait in line for hours, sometimes camping out for a few days to make sure that they are amongst the first to get the new "latest thing".

Slowly but surely cash is being phased out as debit and credit cards have become the preferred method of payment. As new technology evolves at an ever increasing pace I think that in the very near future debit/credit cards will fall by the wayside as a new preferred payment method takes their place. Eventually no one will be able to buy or sell without the latest technology- which plays very nicely into the symbolism described in the prophecies concerning "the mark".

reply to post by eXia7

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You mean a social security number?

I have often thought this very same thing. We have to have it even for a Library Card.

reply to post by littled16

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Also I was thinking too in the United States everyone has a social security number; in other countries people have numbers attached to their names that are just for them; all these identifying numbers are tied into huge computer systems which in turn are connected to satellites.

Lately...I keep getting this eerie feeling that somehow TPTB are orchestrating all of this towards a computerized way of buying and selling that may be forced upon all people eventually; and cash will be a thing of the past.

reply to post by caladonea

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The mark only means something if you believe in it. Its nothing more than superstition. Create something to fear and it can be used to control. What could be more fearful than receiving a mark that condemns you to hell?

All prophecy in the bible is fulfilled by people with delusions of grandeur. Its not divine. Ever heard of the saying "the devil is in the detail"? That definitely applies to religion. It should be as simple as living your life without harming others. Anything else is surplus to requirements and created byegotistical tyrants to control the masses.

reply to post by caladonea

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The "Mark" in Revelation is about someone being worshipped as God.
The Mark is used as a way of identifying those willing to reject the Biblical God and worship the Beast instead which is why the Biblical God punishes those who receive it).
Now unless your computer, your credit card, your social security number, or whatever, are being handed out in a way that limits them to the people who reject the Biblical God, none of them can be the "Mark". Because that is the definition. That is the whole point of the exercise.

reply to post by caladonea

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From my perspective, the mark is selfishness. Selfishness is literally what your hand grabs and what your eye sees. It's in your hand and in your forehead. I have good reason to believe this. There is a hint in this verse.

2 Timothy 3

3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

There are 18 markers of selfishness in this verse set. That's 6+6+6.

As another clue, Carbon has 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. All of our technology, which produces selfishness within us, is made of carbon. Carbon is the mark of mankind and the mark of our commerce system. Not only is the petrol dollar required for any country to purchase goods and services, the coming UNESCO Carbon Tax will require a mark for any of us to have a carbon footprint. This IS coming to the world.

Carbon Tax and UNESCO

Revelation 13

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e-or of mankin] That number is 666.

Why is Carbon the mark of our knowledge? What's the connection?

Genesis 3

21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

The tree of knowledge produces the fruit of knowledge. That fruit is technology. This leads to the fruit of the tree of life is DNA. What did the fallen angels do when they came down from heaven?

Jasher 4

18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.

They mixed animals from the tree of life.

Does the mark make more sense at this point? Can we make the connection to selfishness? Can we see a coming technology that will mark mankind with a tattoo?

Skin Printed Circuit

In the coming carbon trading market, your carbon footprint, medical records and identification will likely be mandatory as a mark on your skin that can be tracked. It starts this month by the way.

Microchips Required March 23rd under Obama Care

March 23rd Chipping of Medical Patients

The bottom line is:
The proposed law did not require anyone to get anything implanted
It just created a national registry of a huge of range of medical devices from pacemakers to dental implants
The intent of the registry was to collect statistics on how safe and effective the devices are
HR3200 is not the bill that became law. Nor is HR 3962, which only passed the House. The "Obamacare" law is HR 3590, passed as Public Law 111-148, which does not have the registry.

A debunked View

Any way you look at it, the potential is there today and was not in any other century. Do we trust the controllers of society to restrain themselves from their own selfishness?

reply to post by EnochWasRight

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Thank you for this information...I myself am just putting theories out there...to open up a discussion about all of this; what you have said is very much (food for thought); and you very well may be right.

reply to post by caladonea

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Well if you think about it almost any kind of payment account that you set up has your social security number attached to it (with the exception of some pay as you go cards). You pretty much need your social security number for everything you do, and you always either have it in your head (memorized) or in your hand (the social security card itself).

I also think TPTB have made great gains toward a cashless society by first tempting us via convenience (direct deposit, debit/credit, etc.) and then making those conveniences mandatory: a lot of companies now pay by direct deposit ONLY and many places are moving toward only accepting electronic payments. Right now there are still places where you can go cash an actual paycheck and pay your bills with cash but they are becoming increasingly scarce. I would not be surprised if we are a completely cashless society before the end of my lifetime.

reply to post by DISRAELI

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Which proves beyond a doubt how disgusting and evil the biblical god is. Think about it, if he was truly a just, loving and merciful god as he so often claims, then why the hell is this world in such a mess? And no, the "satan is in control" argument does not cut it, because he has not always been in control, yet the world has ALWAYS been a mess, ESPECIALLY when god himself was in control. He needed to threaten and bully people because otherwise people would go their own way and likely prosper, and he would have no claim over the fruit of their labour.

No, what this tells me is that its PEOPLE behind it all. The "god" of the israelites was a man (or group of men) who wanted people to worship and serve him, and was excessively greedy. Remind you of anything? Its all about competition between competing kings, its nothing to do with god or satan or other deities. Superstition was added to control the under educated masses. Its such a shame even now, that so many people blindly believe it and completely ignore the reality of human nature.

reply to post by eXia7

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Similar to, but something encoded into a bracelet, necklace or implanted under the skin. It would include, at least, country, city, address, bank account amounts and tracking of purchases, all in one. And continuous location tracking of course.

reply to post by littled16

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Can you think of a more efficient and practical way though than to assign everyone a number? Sure you could go by name, but many people have the same name. Sure you can go by date of birth, but again, many people have the same date of birth AND the same name. It just makes sense this way.

Of course, the system itself is not the issue, its the abuse of it that causes the problems. But to fear a number is stupid. People fear 13, which everyone knows is superstitious rubbish. 666 (or is it even 616?) is just another one of these superstitions. Fear = control.

Cash itself is a useful system. Greed is what gives it a bad name. I do not agree with a cashless society, it has its advantages and disadvantages. The advantages are it can cut down on crimes and tax evasion and stuff, the disadvantages is gives even more power to the banksters and government, and it completely relies on the power grid. Those 2 disadvantages alone outweigh any that cash has, which is why I am against it. But even with it, trade and barter will still exist, and even be more prevalent. So, no, I do not think people will starve if they refuse to embrace the cashless society, they will just adapt and find away around it.

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