I am so sorry you are forced to deal with this, especially since it involves your own family. I wish you strength and courage to carry on, to find a new place and a semblence of peace.

Originally posted by Murgatroid
Have you spoken to God about it?

He's much better at dealing with problems than any one else I know...

Was that sarcasm ? Because that is the most bias, pompous pile, that they specifically train people NOT TO DO in any type of emotional turmoil.

Originally posted by paleorchid13
Was that sarcasm ? Because that is the most bias, pompous pile, that they specifically train people NOT TO DO in any type of emotional turmoil.

No, it's called TRUTH.

You might want to try it some time.

Unless of course you cant handle it.

Call it whatever names you like, it is STILL the truth.

That sort of hatred and immature ridicule only serves to destroy your OWN credibility.

BTW: who is "they"?

I hate the saying "some people have it worse" sure they do, it doesn't make what you're going through any less. I have been in your shoes, you will feel better when you realize you can't fix this. You help push, but the real work your brothers have to do. They have to want to change and if legal issues have not sparked the want for change in them, nothing will. First, GET THOSE KIDS AWAY FROM THOSE TWO.. Foster care would be better than being in a house of druggies. Second, get your parents to stop being enablers! Make your parents understand they are doing more harm than good by giving them money. Cut them both off and out of your lives if you have to. I know it's easier said than done but, you have to put you and your happiness first. Change is never easy and scoring their next drug of choice is a lot easier then dealing with withdrawal. I wish you luck and you can send me a private message anytime you need an ear. My family went through the same thing with my brother, only it was alcohol. My parents bailed him out, took him to 3 different rehab places. I lost count how many times he was locked up due to alcohol. Just remember you can't do it for them, they have to want it.

Work on yourself. Don't worry about their issues even though you are there to absorb it all. Their problems are a reflection of your own, that you need to deal with deep down. Try meditating. Sit down somewhere quiet and just listen to the sound of your breath, talk to your higher consciousness. You don't need to talk to a "God" like some people are pushing on you here.. you just talk and listen to YOUR higher consciousness. A bigger part of you. Once you connect with yourself and see the power you hold, you problems merely melt away as you learn to see they are a reflection of you.

Not saying you are the cause or the root of your family problems. You can just learn to control the need to run away from these problems, and learn to deal with them.

Take up a hobby, go for runs, hit the gym, explore nature, go to shows. Live life. Don't dwell on problems.

Peace and Love.

If you have brothers called Peter and Paul that would suggest your family is catholic. Catholic mothers have a tendency to forgive everything their kids do, and it sounds like this is whats going on in your family...leaving you to have to deal with the mess.

No doubt you are someone who your mother depends on because the other brothers are useless.

You cant save people like this...you cant change them...things will keep on going the way they are heading...All you can do is save yourself.


Set yourself a goal now..to save every penny...even if you only save a few hundred dollars it will give you hope that you can keep on track. Once you have enough money get the hell out of there.

Whilst your still living there, stay out of the company of your family as much as possible...like you said join a gym or something positive like that to keep your mind off all the drama and stay healthy.

Stay in your room and listen to music etc.

It sounds harsh, but Im not telling you anything I havent done myself. Cut people out of your life that only bring negativity and drama.
You have ONE life.. and you should make certain of your priorities and where you can excel or be held back. In the end some who you have severed will come to you for help or forgiveness.. though most will wallow in their toxicity for their lifetimes. If or when they come to you is when youre help is needed and wanted.. and accepted. Ive never regretted severing ties with toxic people. Make some goals and set your priorities... and dont waver from them.

There is no simple solution or easy fix here. Sounds harsh, but it's the truth.
You can't make someone who doesn't want to quit drugs or alcohol quit against their will. That's something only the addict can decide for themselves. The best you can do is try to convince them, but don't run yourself down trying either.
You can try to explain this to your parents, but again, it's up to them to ultimately make that change themselves. All you can do past helping convince them there needs to be a change, is help them manage ways to do that if they decide too. Just because they should listen to you doesn't meant they will, and that sucks but it happens sometimes. Sounds like they might be more reasonable about the matter than your brother. I'm sure they don't approve of his shenanigans, but don't know how to give him tough love by letting them hit rock bottom. It comes from a good place but with a bad outcome. Despite the fact it's a religious saying "good intentions pave the road to hell" fits here well.
I know you're trying to help them, so in turn your life improves, but these are their choices (albeit bad ones) and sometimes we can't change others choices, even when it effects yours. You can help by trying to bring them to this conclusion, but if you beat that drum too loud and too often, they will just stop listening, and it will actually hurt your cause. Lecture in moderation, and don't get derogatory or holier-than-thou, no put downs; or they will stop listening.
The most effective thing you can do, is just doing what's best for you, despite the obstacles they create. Just think, every obstacle caused by them that you have to overcome will make you stronger in life. (at least the ones you can't avoid)
I take it you are young enough to live at home, if so living in the same home with this is only temporary anyway. Rise above, then lead by example. Sounds like you have good personal boundaries for life, but realize that doesn't come to everyone so easily. It's not easy to quit either drugs or bad habits (even bad parenting habits) even when you're actively making that effort. IF they do hear you out, it's a long hard road ahead.

Tell you parents to cut ties with your brothers.

That should improve lives for you guys, and possibly them to if they have no back up plan for their spending and shelter.