Greetings, fine ATS members!
As you can see, the title may seem a bit preposterous.. How can Atheists and Christians have the SAME view on death? After all, Atheists believe you
will simply cease to exist, and Christians believe you will suffer for eternity in Hell (if not Saved), right? That is what I've always believed,
myself. However, I've recently had a sort of "revelation" if you will. No, nothing mystical, it wasn't God speaking to me, it was just common
sense kicking in and slapping me across the face.
I'm here to proclaim that, as it turns out.. Both
are right! And here is why, in summary.. Atheists are wrong, in MY belief, in that they
assume there is no God; HOWEVER, they are right in saying that with death, you cease to exist. Christians are correct, in my belief etc etc, in saying
that there is a God, but wrong in saying that Hell is for eternity. That's right, Hell is NOT for eternity!
First, some foundation - In 1 Timothy 6:15-16, we discover that God is the ONLY being that is immortal;
which God will bring about in his own time--God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and
who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
So then; God is the only one who is immortal; as of right now
. We know that those who believe in the Son, will have eternal life. This
is found all throughout scripture, and shouldn't need quoting, but just in case:
Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by
believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
This also leads onto our main topic.. Those who are lead to eternal punishment; and those to eternal life--
--but before that! Some of you Christian brothers/sisters may be saying, "Lionhearte, it says RIGHT there that it's ETERNAL punishment!" in which I
say to you; yes, it does say "eternal punish-MENT", not "eternal punish-ING" Know the difference, it can save you - in so fact, eternal does not
mean "for ever", in the Hebrew wording; and yes, there is other scripture (in Revelation), that says you will burn for ever and ever and ever and
ever.. but hold the phone! I suggest you do some studies on what "forever" means in the Bible - in Jonah, forever meant three days and nights. You
may even quote the book of Mark; in which thrice it says; "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." - mind you, the fires that was
called upon Sodom and Gomorrah was unquenchable; but is it still burning today? When Jerusalem was destroyed, it's fire was unquenchable.. is it
still on fire today? The answer, is no. The fire, certainly WAS unquenchable; meaning it could not be PUT out, but that does not mean it would not
BURN out. That is the case here; as well as with the worms; they will consume, until they can consume no-more..
Now, some may say, "certainly, the body is killed, but the soul lives forever in hell" - to which I quote,
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in
And now, for possibly one of my all-time favorite scriptures..
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The wages of sin.. is death. The gift of God, is eternal life.
Now, let me just summarize, in case I left some details out the first time around-
When someone dies today, or 3,000 years ago, they "sleep". Their next moment of consciousness, is at the resurrection (for those who accepted
Christ, and forgiveness), or at the 2nd resurrection (for those who denied Christ, and also forfeited their forgiveness).
At the 1st Resurrection, we receive eternal life. That is because, though we may die - we will live (as quoted earlier). However, at the 2nd
Resurrection, those who were and are dead, will rise and face judgment, for their sins.
Hell, in this case, is oftentimes called Hellfire; and some propose it will be when the Devil, who is Satan, gathers up the multitudes to surround the
Holy City at the end of the thousand years; and God literally casts HELLFIRE down unto him and all the wicked with him; this is apparent in two
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh
shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be
ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do [this], saith the LORD of hosts.
“Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set
them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. 2 But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness
will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under
the soles of your feet on the day when I act,” says the Lord Almighty.
This alone is a very significant scripture; it describes them that will receive Judgment are burned up, like stubble.. neither root nor branch is
left; all is gone, all of a person CEASES to EXIST. However, the last part.. "they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I
act," is very interesting, especially when paired with...
Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.
18 By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.
This scripture, is referring to Satan (in context with the previous passage), yet it states he will be thrown down to the earth.. and a fire will come
out from within him, and consume him, and reduce him to ASHES on the ground.. the same thing that will happen in Malachi! Now, when is this day..?
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of
heaven, and devoured them.
This is the same day! This is the end of the millennial reign with Christ, as it appears.
"Hell" or Hellfire, is not for eternity; but it's effects, the consequences for it's punishment; ceasing to exist; is FOR eternity; is FOREVER.
Besides - THINK about it! God loves everyone, even the WORST sinner; and so, if Hell is God's wrath being poured out for eternity.. why would God
take pleasure in destroying his children? He. Would. Not. That goes against everything the Bible teaches, about a loving and caring God, and is
blasphemy - lies, induced by Satan.
After all, what did Satan say, in the very beginning?
"You will not surely die."
Turns out.. You WILL.