Originally posted by yorkshirelad
reply to post by bismarck
Interesting theory which can be shot down in flames due to something that theorists forget. History can actually be measured and cross referenced. So
dig up some bones in a grave dated 500ad. Carbon date the bones and hey presto you can find out if the date matches the physics of atomic decay !
With lots of grave sites carbon dated you can be damned sure we have not missed 300 years !!!!!!
FYI :carbon is not the only element with isotopes. something the "carbon dating is flawed" conspiracists seem to forget. Carbon dating is great for
determining when something that lived died.
Then there's tree rings, ice cores etc etc.
Your dating techniques are dated; found wanting after being weighed thousands of times before.
Carbon dating is a mainstay of geology and archaeology - but an enormous peak discovered in the amount of carbon-14 in the atmosphere between 45
thousand and 11 thousand years ago casts doubt on the biological carbon cycle that underpins the technique.
The article provides enough information for the learned person to be able to deduce that carbon-14 dating is impractical. The earth has constantly
been in violence; it has never been "stable". It is a lazy researcher's dream that the earth had hypothetically stayed silent while all of these
wonderful chemical processes were taking place... but because we know that the earth is constantly being bombarded from all directions and also in
itself with interference, then we know that we cannot rely on the lazy research methods, such as carbon-dating. It seems nice on the surface, but the
reality is that you would have to believe that the earth has been quiet for thousands and thousands of years in order for the system to be accurate.
And well, the earth has not been quiet. I needn't explain all the disasters that happen upon the earth every day, and how often, all around the
world all the time, for only God knows how long. I think y'all know that.
Understand that radiocarbon has its OWN years; they do not match up to calendar years. The elements were not infused with the Gregorian calendar.
A radiocarbon year is raw data. That's all.
Calibration methods The raw radiocarbon dates, in BP years, are calibrated to give calendar dates. Standard calibration curves are available,
based on comparison of radiocarbon dates of samples that can be dated independently by other methods such as examination of tree growth rings
(dendrochronology), deep ocean sediment cores, lake sediment varves, coral samples, and speleothems (cave deposits
Notice how the raw data is calibrated using circular means? The compare the ages with other things that are not known for a fact -- comparing nature
to nature is not going to give you accurate timing;; all they do is correlate anomalous behaviors -- not determine for HOW LONG in our Gregorian
Calendar these lasted.
It's called "Wiggle Matching."
Wiggle matching uses the non-linear relationship between the 14C age and calendar age to match the shape of a series of closely sequentially
spaced 14C dates with the 14C calibration curve.
From the same source.
Look at the Source link above and go check out the math.
They do a pretty good job, don't get me wrong. It's a pretty cool method of dating. But it's extremely fickle, inaccurate, and based upon way too
One of these admitted assumptions is:
Approximate dating For approximate analysis it is assumed that the cosmic ray flux is constant over long periods of time; thus carbon-14 is
produced at a constant rate and the proportion of radioactive to non-radioactive carbon is constant: ca. 1 part per trillion (600 billion
Further proof that these methods are unreliable, because of the introduction of the "curve".
Accurate dating In 1958, Hessel de Vries showed that the concentration of carbon-14 in the atmosphere varies with both time and locality. In
order to obtain the most accurate results in carbon dating, calibration curves must be employed.
And an example of assuming and acting in ignorance; yes, this is admitted.
Other mechanisms of producing C-14 14C can also be produced at ground level at a rate of 1 x 10−4 atoms per gram per second, which is not
considered significant enough to impact on dating without a known other source of neutrons.
Unfortunately, the best history we get is STILL from written accounts. It's a harsh reality for historians to face. But they do. They compare
their findings to what has been written and already understood for verification!
Yes, mankind can easily miss 300 years.