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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:27 AM
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Just a short post for a change! and a bizarre thing to ponder

For more than 60 years there have been many stories about the strange visitors, or the infamous “Men in Black”, threatening those who have had close encounters. The possibility of nasty consequences, if people ever speak of what they know, is often part of a conversation that follows with these entities.

There is a string of deaths and suicides of scientists, investigators, military personnel, the rich and famous, and political figures where a dark, suspicious finger lingers. It points to something more than the coroner’s official verdict on the cause of death. But where UFOs are involved, the proof and the truth are never quite within reach.

There are numerous UFO related tales where we hear that witnesses have been threatened not to speak out. The implication being that their lives (and often the lives of their families) are in danger should they do so?

We could also say that the MIB have managed to keep the UFO secret under wraps for decades and that means their methods and means have been effective.

But is there any proof of witnesses being threatened and then those threats being carried through when the witness goes public? There are enough whistleblowers to suggest that this isn't the case (unless the whistleblowers are really agents of deception). There are also a number of mysterious suicides, fatal accidents and terminal illnesses involving UFO investigators that suggest something more than the official reason for deaths.


The origins of these Men In Black, if they really exist, could be human, alien or a mix of both.

But do they actually go about plotting and carrying out unprovable murders?




posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:34 AM
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The origin of the Men In Black concept is in the mind of the "witness".

People who made up stories about UFOs to sound cool realized their lies would have hole after hole poked through them, so they invented an Earth-dwelling entity (possibly government) that would be their fall-back when questioned into a corner.

Aliens aren't visiting Earth in spaceships, and there's no secret agency that threatens the lives of Americans who believe they've witnessed a UFO.
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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:36 AM
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Believers in this mythology built upon primarily by nutters and delusional adherents to the UFOlogy circus would certainly have you believe that there are indeed MIBs and they can be dangerous.

There may very well have been actual people of official capacity once upon a time who were charged with UFO investigation that served the role of MIB, but, these days, were you to see one, it'd likely be some delusional believer attempting to perpetuate the continuance of the mythos and no one of any sort of official capacity, means, or facility to do anything about anything.

There's also the MIB that exists entirely in the mind of the person reporting a sighting as means to seem more credible.
MIBs are after me, so I must be telling teh troof!



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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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Many people say and do believe the (real men in black) do exist; but in what forms? Here are some interesting theories.

(Quote)...In 1971, UFO author Timothy Green Beckley published a pamphlet entitled MIB - Aliens Among us, in which he revealed a US Air Force memorandum apparently written by one Lt Gen Wheless. It warned military personnel to be on the alert for people impersonating air force of fixers, describing a person in a USAF uniform who "approached local police and other citizens who had sighted a UFO". Apparently, this shadowy figure assembled them and told them that they had not seen what they thought they had seen. Nor should they talk to anyone about their imagined sighting. As would be expected, sightings of The Men In Black were documented throughout the Sixties and Seventies when the fashionable nihilism spawned by the Vietnam war, nuclear threat and the arms race gradually mutated into academic orthodoxy. In an atmosphere dominated by Cold War paranoia, assassinations and Watergate, every conspiracy theory gained validity. One of the most interesting and most detailed descriptions of a Man In Black was given in 1976. Dr Herbert Hopkins, a psychiatrist based in Maine, had no previous link with this field, except that he had been treating a youth who claimed to have been abducted by aliens. Here is an abbreviated account of the whole episode, as Hopkins told it to UFO Review:...(unquote)

Link: www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
The origin of the Men In Black concept is in the mind of the "witness".

People who made up stories about UFOs to sound cool realized their lies would have hole after hole poked through them, so they invented an Earth-dwelling entity (possibly government) that would be their fall-back when questioned into a corner.

Aliens aren't visiting Earth in spaceships, and there's no secret agency that threatens the lives of Americans who believe they've witnessed a UFO.
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....so says the Man in Black.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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But do they actually go about plotting and carrying out unprovable murders?


I do not trust these Black suited Alien Guys and I firmly believe they do murder people in secret

Anyone who has not seen one of them should check out this video :



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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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No, they don't kill people, that's why they have the neuralizer.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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Secret organisations do kill people in secret, and they've dones so for millennia.

Sometimes it goes public, like the Alexander Litvinenko story, where they will inject radioactive isotopes into your system, just like in James Bond movies.

If you possess information deemed critical for one of these ( mostly government ) organisations, and they think you are a risk of spilling something to another party, you will die. No point in denying that.

I guess shady agents going around and killing people do count as MIB sorta, don't they ?

But maybe Mr Litvinenko was just a nutter and poisoned himself ..



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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I wouldn't doubt that there are agencies within the government or even beyond the government that we aren't aware of and that they intimidate and eliminate threats to their organization isn't that unrealistic either considering the shenanigans of the c i a and what not..


I was hoping Will Smith would knock on my door.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 11:04 AM
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There is only ONE man in black!!




posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 11:05 AM
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In my several decades after a time-loss experience in 1964 and talking about it, while following the abductee herd, I don't recall any systematic dying of experiencers.

All we have to do is to look at the alternative news that breaks whistle-blower stories, etc. to see that TPTB don't really care much about rubbing people out or even working every hard at silencing them by threats or cash money payoffs.

Wouldn't Gary McKinnon be the one guy you would silence in some fashion unless you really wanted folks to start considering the possibilities of a grand US space armada? We damned well know that while the triangles are top secret vehicles, they continually buzz the public with them such that they are easily identified for being exactly what they are, UFO-like craft.

Better to assume that there is no simple procedures for uniting (or not) the public with the UFO phenomena. It is by far too multiple dimensional of a problem to have simple fixes....because there is no fixing it, there is just preparing for the eventuality of disclosure of UFOs and the enormous implications for humans beyond that point. Building myths slowly into reality as is the whole process here, is the name of the psy-ops game.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 11:14 AM
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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 12:01 PM
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a member here has a couple of threads on another subject that may have exposed (directly or maybe indirectly) very significant information in 'highly speculative conspiracy topics'
he has claimed that his life has been threated, and describes an attack by a 'man in black'. he has continued to post, however.
i havn't checked out his threads lately, thanks for reminding me.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Secret organisations do kill people in secret, and they've dones so for millennia.

Sometimes it goes public, like the Alexander Litvinenko story, where they will inject radioactive isotopes into your system, just like in James Bond movies.

If you possess information deemed critical for one of these ( mostly government ) organisations, and they think you are a risk of spilling something to another party, you will die. No point in denying that.

I guess shady agents going around and killing people do count as MIB sorta, don't they ?

But maybe Mr Litvinenko was just a nutter and poisoned himself ..


I hate to say this, because the poster may have been making a good point, but I just can't make it through any post about allegedly real life events that contains the phrase "just like in James Bond movies."

Sorry.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by tinhattribunal
a member here has a couple of threads on another subject that may have exposed (directly or maybe indirectly) very significant information in 'highly speculative conspiracy topics'
he has claimed that his life has been threated, and describes an attack by a 'man in black'. he has continued to post, however.
i havn't checked out his threads lately, thanks for reminding me.


Could you link some of the threads? I'd like to read them. Thanks!



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Short answer is possibly not, but who knows?

We know for fact that, over the decades, western intelligence agencies have monitored the activities of some UFO researchers and major players in the subject. We also know for fact that various intelligence agencies have been active in the field as recently as the early 21st Century.

In both the UK and the USA, some researchers have been considered subversives and radicals. Hanging around sites like Rudloe Manor and Area 51 tends to draw attention from the National Security apparatus. No surprises there!

The FBI has been (historically) involved in covert violence and arranged murders during the notorious Hoover days of COINTELPRO. This doesn't have to mean parties in the FBI used similar violent methods in the ufology field, but it does underline the fact that some very serious people were keeping an eye on some UFO-related folk.

I know a lot of people will dismiss the relationship between UFO research and Intel agencies because they see UFOs as a lot of BS. The thing is, regardless of someone's perspective on UFOs, that relationship has been there since the beginning and continues to this day.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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They have no power, zero, over anyone who is doing the work they came to do. Nor does anyone else. Everyone's lives are very managed, and yes they can lower frequency and go off track, and some things do happen that are bad, but have faith in goodness and do the right thing. And do not ever give into fear. There are 2 different types of MIB's, the human black op types, they need a really good mother to sit on them, seriously I'm sick of that crapola. And the ET kind, and they don't go where they are not permitted. They might intimidate, but they can't touch good people. So do the right thing. Strive to do what you came to do. Speaking up, blowing their secrecy out of the water is always, the right thing to do.
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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 03:02 PM
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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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So many people seem to be living in fear, for some reason, and its no wonder so many very bad and illegal legislations continually pass without large crowds standing up to them and telling them to take a hike quickly because this is not a go.

Never follow bad orders, never give into bad guys for any reason whatsoever.

Never be afraid. Do the right thing.

And if bad ET's show up, tell them they also need to raise up their love, need mothers really bad and to go away. If they take Love and those who are striving towards goodness, and waking up, Good intercedes and they are rescued from the bad guys. PERIOD. The bad guys also get karma, and face what they do as well.
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