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Senator Ted Cruz Smokes Out Dianne Feinstein: You Didn't Answer My Question! Wow!

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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:19 AM
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This subject is being made over complicated by one important factor. As Mr Cruz points out, obliquely by asking the question he asked, messing about with what is and is not covered by the constitution, weakens the whole document upon which the United States of America rests its morality and its ethics, which is unacceptable. As Dianne Feinstein pointed out in response, things are being done with weapons, which, rightly, and fairly, tug at the hearts of all good people, and install woe in the hearts and minds of all.

The thing that appears to be missing, is someone standing up and advocating a political solution which solidifies and maintains the power of the constitution, WHILE protecting the citizens from the sorts of attacks which are the driver of the entire argument, the entire debate as it stands. I may not be American myself, and I may not personally favour firearms as defensive weapons, prefering as I do the cold steel to the hot lead. However, it is clear to me, that the reason that a solution which protects the constitutional right of the people to bare arms, and the human right of all people to go about thier business in some saftey, is that the only solution that can perform both feats simultaneously, would be staggeringly costly.

The simple fact of the matter is, that in the cases which have driven this debate, the person or persons held responsible for these acts, have had history of mental malfunction, or were clearly disturbed at the time they planned, and executed their awful acts. Therefore, it seems sensible, to me at least, that the solution ought not to be to keep firearms away from dangerously maladjusted people, but to keep people who pose a risk to thier fellow man, away from both thier fellow man, and the firearms with which they have recently made such a public mess.

It must be remembered that people who are in a situation mentally, which makes them capable of mass murder, will find a way to do it wether they have access to fire arms, or knives, or hammers or axes. Baseball bats, hockey boots, bricks, rocks, poisons, all these things could potentially be used to kill many people. Any mook with a chip on thier shoulder and a desire to kill, could construct an explosive using fertilisers and simple trigger mechanisms, perhaps with alarm clock timers.

Heck, I could kill a man with a can of expanding foam, but the thing that prevents me doing that, is that I am not some sort of psychotic, or a sociopath, or some other mentally dysfunctional unfortunate.

However, as obvious as this solution is, it will also be vastly expensive to adequately identify, track, and in some cases institutionalise those who pose the real risk to thier fellow man. The reason for this, is that mental health in the States is precisely as poorly dealt with as it is anywhere else. There is a lack of cross communication between organisations responsible for the care of the mentally ill, the government departments which handle other aspects of that care, and the deparments of state governments responsible for registration of firearms. If these bodies communicated with one another effectively, and if the organisations responsible for keeping dangerous people away from society were to function as broadly as they must to be effective, then BILLIONS would have to be spent.

And spent those billions MUST be, because infringement of the second ammendment is as unacceptable as would be further deaths through government inaction. The only alternative that will work is to accept the truth, that the people responsible are the problem, not the tools they use to do the job.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:19 AM
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it's simple...ted cruz want no band on any firearm, no matter how powerful or deadly. feinstein wants military style weapons banned from the general public. i suggest that every neighbor around ted cruz's home be armed with bushmaster assault rifles, him, his wife and kids would obviously feel perfectly safe. also, every one of the people that have communicated with cruz, that may not like him or even hate him, also be armed with bushmaster assault rifles, all mentally ill people should be armed with bushmaster assault rifes. all parolees from prison should be armed with assault rifles......absolute IS ABSOLUTE.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by jashn20002000
reply to post by TauCetixeta
 


Its good to see that someone besides rand Paul is actually bring up the obvious. That the politicians in these positions of enforcing unjust laws and bills never answer the real questions when asked. He had to goat it out of her and when he finally did she just resorted to lying. If you believe the these laws should not be held against certain areas or otherwise stated as certain books then why my good lady are you enforcing this ridiculous gun law that gos against the very constitutional rights that not only founded this country but the same constitutional rights that you "claim" to have a great respect for?



Listen to the entire clip. It's clear what Senator Dianne Feinsteins attitude is.

"Lets just shred the U.S. Constitution and make the U.S. Supreme Court clean up our mess!"



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:21 AM
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Thank God Senator Ted Cruz is there to remind everyone about the 1st, 2nd & 4th
Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.


That’s why the Great State of Texas sent him there!


The junior senator from Texas sure doesn’t act like a ‘junior’ senator. He’s taking shots at everybody he needs to on multiple issues. Look how he slapped Eric Holder around!




I voted for him and so far I’m very impressed with him. I hope I don’t wake one day to find he voted for something like NDAA (like Rand Paul did) but I’m sure it won’t take long before he’s turned out by TPTB. That seems to be trend but he’s doing good right now.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
it's simple...ted cruz want no band on any firearm, no matter how powerful or deadly. feinstein wants military style weapons banned from the general public. i suggest that every neighbor around ted cruz's home be armed with bushmaster assault rifles, him, his wife and kids would obviously feel perfectly safe. also, every one of the people that have communicated with cruz, that may not like him or even hate him, also be armed with bushmaster assault rifles, all mentally ill people should be armed with bushmaster assault rifes. all parolees from prison should be armed with assault rifles......absolute IS ABSOLUTE.


Solution: Go after the mentally ill. Stop attacking law abiding Americans with new

Gun Laws that WILL NOT WORK.

Senator Dianne Feinstein KNOWS the new gun laws will not work. She does not care.

The progressives have their eye on the prize.

They want a database of all law abiding Americans with guns so they can confiscate them

in the future. We can all see the big picture. She is fooling --- no one ---.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:30 AM
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"Lets just shred the U.S. Constitution and make the U.S. Supreme Court clean up our mess!"


That is the view of everyone Obama appoints, too. Holder wouldn’t even answer the question about the constitutionality of killing Americans on American soil!!

Progressives hate the constitution. They have that in common with this totalitarian regime.

We have two big problems in this country…and the people in power are doing the exact opposite of what is needed to correct those problems.




posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by benrl
I love how she dodges the question and goes for an emotional retort rather than address the real issue asked.

Emotions don't override the rule of law, the comparison of banned books and the first amendment to guns is spot on, you can't pick and chose what gets protected by the constitution randomly.


wrong, wrong, wrong...books with child porn are banned, which is totally against the 1st amendment...picking and choosing what gets protected by the constitution happens all the time...that's why ted cruz didn't get an answer, because it was such a ignorant question. and, for those of you on the first 2 pages of this thread in support of this nutball from texas, to not even be able to think this through using elementary reasoning skills, is beyond comprehension.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:41 AM
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Yes, Senator Ted Cruz smoked out Eric Holder also!

He eventually received a "No." from Holder but it wasn't easy.



Clearly, there is a new sheriff in town and his name is Senator Ted Cruz.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

wrong, wrong, wrong...books with child porn are banned, which is totally against the 1st amendment...


Tell that to Jock Sturges.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:47 AM
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I think we may have found the antidote for the 2016 democrat ticket….

Rand/Cruz - Cruz/Rand or possibly Cruz/Rubio – Rubio/Cruz??

Hey, nobody knew Obama before the ‘anointed one’ took his throne. Cruz, Paul and Rubio are all making big waves and all have bigger national name recognition than Obama did in 2007.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
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Yes, Senator Ted Cruz smoked out Eric Holder also!

He eventually received a "No." from Holder but it wasn't easy.



Clearly, there is a new sheriff in town and his name is Senator Ted Cruz.


this is crap...holder answered his question a couple of times before he said the word "NO".....i guess cruz has a hard time with comprehension, so he wants one-syllable word answers, which holder finally realized. this is the way democrats have to talk to these people, in simple language, where there can be no ambiguity



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
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I think we may have found the antidote for the 2016 democrat ticket….

Rand/Cruz - Cruz/Rand or possibly Cruz/Rubio – Rubio/Cruz??

Hey, nobody knew Obama before the ‘anointed one’ took his throne. Cruz, Paul and Rubio are all making big waves and all have bigger national name recognition than Obama did in 2007.


Yes, those 3 are now in charge.

Those 3 participated in an important filibuster regarding the Obama Drone Policy.

At the exact same time, McCain and Lindsey Graham were across the street rubbing

elbows and smoking cigars with President Obama!!!

It is what it is!

Out with the old and in with the new.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by TauCetixeta
 


I think we may have found the antidote for the 2016 democrat ticket….

Rand/Cruz - Cruz/Rand or possibly Cruz/Rubio – Rubio/Cruz??

Hey, nobody knew Obama before the ‘anointed one’ took his throne. Cruz, Paul and Rubio are all making big waves and all have bigger national name recognition than Obama did in 2007.


as a democrat....PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE....have rand/cruz run in 2016....



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
Thank God Senator Ted Cruz is there to remind everyone about the 1st, 2nd & 4th
Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.



I hope he lectures the progressives every week!

Looking offended didn't work for Senator Feinstein. Nice try. Answer the question!

You see, this is what happens when the Tea Party arrives in Washington D.C.

Why it interests me???

The 2nd Amendment sounds kinda important to many Americans. I am one of them.

Description of the content???

Senator Ted Cruz asks a simple question to Senator Dianne Feinstein.

Should we go after the 1st Amendment and the 4th Amendment the same way you

are going after the 2nd Amendment. That is what the video says.


Wow, did I hear you right? Did you say that Ted Cruz smoked out Dianne Feinstein? Really? I mean, Really?

The truth is that Ted Cruz got Smoked, and not only by Dianne Feinstein, but by a few other senators as well. Ted Cruz has done nothing other than to repeatedly make a fool out of himself every since his first day in office and this day was no different. So yes, we do see what happens when the Tea Party arrives in D.C., they make absolute fools of themselves over and over again, the whole while thinking they are winning the argument. Jeez! What an absolute joke they have proven to be!

The fact that you think he smoked anyone in this video is not only ludicrous, it's the nuts of the problem here in America. What reality are you Tea Partiers living in anyway?

For the record and despite what you think you didn't hear, at 3:59 in the video Dianne Feinstein does indeed answer the question when she says; "the answer is obvious No."



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Originally posted by jimmyx

wrong, wrong, wrong...books with child porn are banned, which is totally against the 1st amendment...


Tell that to Jock Sturges.


i looked him up....he had naked pictures of children, not child porn



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by benrl
I love how she dodges the question and goes for an emotional retort rather than address the real issue asked.

Emotions don't override the rule of law, the comparison of banned books and the first amendment to guns is spot on, you can't pick and chose what gets protected by the constitution randomly.


wrong, wrong, wrong...books with child porn are banned, which is totally against the 1st amendment...picking and choosing what gets protected by the constitution happens all the time...that's why ted cruz didn't get an answer, because it was such a ignorant question. and, for those of you on the first 2 pages of this thread in support of this nutball from texas, to not even be able to think this through using elementary reasoning skills, is beyond comprehension.


Wrong......again.

All you have to do is actually listen to the entire 6:10 clip.


Eventually, Senator Ted Cruz DID get an answer from Senator Dianne Feinstein.

Her answer " Obviously, No."



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by benrl
I love how she dodges the question and goes for an emotional retort rather than address the real issue asked.

Emotions don't override the rule of law, the comparison of banned books and the first amendment to guns is spot on, you can't pick and chose what gets protected by the constitution randomly.


wrong, wrong, wrong...books with child porn are banned, which is totally against the 1st amendment...picking and choosing what gets protected by the constitution happens all the time...that's why ted cruz didn't get an answer, because it was such a ignorant question. and, for those of you on the first 2 pages of this thread in support of this nutball from texas, to not even be able to think this through using elementary reasoning skills, is beyond comprehension.


Actually . . . you and anyone else that makes this argument is wrong

Child pornography is illegal because it infringes on their rights. It's exploitation of children by adults, who they have no power over, in the same way that subjugating those based on race is illegal. Pornography between consenting adults is not illegal, due to free speech . . . however, a minor can't consent to pornography.

So, this is a blatent fallacious argument. The Progressives want to equate its being illegal to a "morallity" issue and claim that this shows that individual rights are not absolute. They are Collectivists and don't believe in individual rights, they believe in privilages. I just wish Cruz was more on the ball and stated this for the record and wiped that smug smile off of Schumer's face.

Owning any type of weapon does not infringe on anyone's rights. Murder infringes on their rights and murder is illegal.

The anti-gunners are fantastic liars and hook everyone in with a plea to emotion, often using children, and that is why they love the "child pornography" argument. They are the lowest type of liars and scum, in the same way child pornographers are when they invoke the "freedom of speech" argument . . . as is any one that agrees with them.
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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:01 AM
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Well, everyone who have watched the entire 6:10 clip can see what happened.

Senator Ted Cruz smoked out Senator Dianne Feinstein.

He is a very smart Tea Party politician. He probably expected the dodge from his question.

She then begrudgingly answered his question "Obviously....no."

Getting emotional failed miserably. Nice try.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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The anti-gunners are fantastic liars and hook everyone in with a plea to emotion, often using children, and that is why they love the "child pornography" argument. They are the lowest type of liars and scum, in the same way child pornographers are when they invoke the "freedom of speech" argument . . . as is any one that agrees with them.
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"Often using children"

Did you hear Michael Moore wants to release the photos of dead Newtown, Connecticut

children in order to attack the 2nd Amendment?

They have no shame.
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posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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I am not well versed in The us amendments... BUT with that aside i would like to know why is not one type of gun enough,and why not the most basic and simplistic of gun


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