Originally posted by Zaphod58
Look at the nose gear. There's nowhere for it to retract to, and no door to cover it up when it does retract. There are no main landing gear wells, or main landing gear doors. Where are the wheels supposed to go? That's what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by zonetripper2065
reply to post by pheonix358
Like you keep saying "it's international airspace", why where the Iranians going after the drone first place?
That drone and it's escorts had every right to be there unmolested.
The Iranians were starting sh*t, they got warned and they backed off. Why? because they were out there for no other reason than to mess with the drone. Otherwise they would have stated what they were doing, given the drone a wide berth and carried on their intended operation.
edit on 15-3-2013 by zonetripper2065 because: type ooooo
Originally posted by amkia
reply to post by zonetripper2065
Question to ask...
Since when yanks are allowed to give warning to the local (Whether they are military or civilian flights) IN INTERNATIONAL WATER AND AIR SPACE..?
As nations endeavor to protect their interests in the maritime environment during peacetime they might employ naval forces in geographic areas where various land, air, surface, and subsurface threats exist. Commanders are then faced with ascertaining the intent of entities (e.g., small boats, low slow flyers (LSFs), jet skis, swimmers) proceeding toward their units. Oftentimes ascertaining intent is a very difficult problem, especially when operating in the littorals where air and surface traffic is heavy. Given an uncertain operating environment, commanders may be inclined to establish some type of assessment, threat, or warning zone around their units in an effort to help sort the common operational picture and ascertain the intent of inbound entities. This objective may be accomplished during peacetime while adhering to international law as long as the navigational rights of other ships, submarines, and aircraft are respected. Specifically, when operating in international waters, commanders may assert notice (via NOTAMs and NOTMARs) that within a certain geographic area, for a certain period of time, dangerous military activities will be taking place. Commanders may request that entities traversing the area communicate with them and state their intentions.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by stirling
Sixteen miles is well within air to air missile range if they wanted to take a shot with one. That's plenty close enough. But you guys are right, the Iranians just wanted to go fly around and say hi, and take pretty pictures of the ocean. The fact that they happened to be flying directly towards the Predator flying in international airspace is pure coincidence, and the US is to blame for putting it in their way. Damn the US!
They can monitor the situation while remaining well clear of the Predator. It's not like they were going to be able to fly alongside it and escort it, since the F-4 is much faster and doesn't have the best slow speed handling characteristics.
Where do the Iranian's get off interfering with a plane in international airspace? They've shot at UAVs flying in international airspace, and they were trying to intercept this one. What gives them the right?edit on 3/15/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)