Physicists say they have found a Higgs boson (God Particle), page 1


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Topic started on 14-3-2013 @ 09:14 AM by bknapple32

Physicists say they have found a Higgs boson (God Particle)


apnews.myway.com
GENEVA (AP) - The search is all but over for a subatomic particle that is a crucial building block of the universe.

Physicists announced Thursday they believe they have discovered the subatomic particle predicted nearly a half-century ago, which will go a long way toward explaining what gives electrons and all matter in the universe size and shape.

The elusive particle, called a Higgs boson, was predicted in 1964 to help fill in our understanding of the creation of the universe, which many theorize occurred in a massive explosion known as the Big Bang. The particle was named for Peter H
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reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 09:25 AM by Fimbulvetr
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I like that they're testing it's 'quantum properties'. Makes me think of Stargate..!

So they've gone through the initial data and it looks promising.. but say it really is a HBP/GP.. what does that mean for us all? I read the article and yes it says it relates to the BB Theory, but.. does will it prove BB Theory, or just support it with further evidence needed?

I'll be keeping an eye out on this one.

S&F



reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 09:30 AM by micpsi
The Higgs particle was discovered in 1959 five years before Scottish physicist Peter Higgs even conceived of it. This became known in 1980 to senior Theosophists like Dr Lester Smith FRS, discoverer of vitamin B12, and other scientists, including a past president of the London Society for Psychical Research. See HERE. The particle found last year at CERN is not the true "God particle." That title was just a journalistic invention to promote a book written by Fermilab director Leon Lederman. The particle that can correctly be called the "God particle" in the sense that it embodies the 10-fold nature of God and exists everywhere is THIS.
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reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 09:34 AM by SilentE
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Dammit BK, I was going to post this an hour ago but had to pop next door before I could finish!

S&F

Phys.org also have an article about this.
The search is all but over for a subatomic particle that is a crucial building block of the universe. Physicists announced Thursday they believe they have discovered the subatomic particle predicted nearly a half-century ago, which will go a long way toward explaining what gives electrons and all matter in the universe size and shape.


What's next then? (In not so smart terms )
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reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 09:41 AM by bknapple32
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Gave ya a star for second place. Best I could do. Lol.


reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:07 AM by LightSpeedDriver
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They spent billions of tax dollars and have very little to show for it. God I hate science, trying to pollute, genetically modify (sorry genetically improve) everything around us because we are so stupid, arrogant and blinded by greed. No good will come of this discovery in our lifetimes, I dare to predict that.

Meanwhile, thousands of children day every day from war, famine, man created problems and other unholinesses.

Colour me unimpressed. No offence to OP.


reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:17 AM by bknapple32
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I don't even know where to begin. Science is the pursuit of truth. Without it, you're not typing on that nifty brick with letters on it to a screen that interprets your hand movements into visual stimuli. I'm sure there were naysayers when big wasteful scientists were spending billions on figuring out how to make information go from the pages of a book to immortality of the world wide web.

Try and think a little ahead of this story.

There are plenty of other wasteful monies we could be using to feed the impoverished. Science isn't one of them.
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reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:21 AM by homeskillet
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No offense but who/what is responsible for you having this luxury of being able to tell people all over the globe in a matter of seconds your dislike of science?



reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:30 AM by bknapple32
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Scientists are at the, it looks like, acts like, and quacks like. In the article the physicist said the 2012 data is full and is a matter of what kind of higgs boson it is at this point.

Worriedly, I didn't like those wordings either. But rereading it and im in board is the real thing.
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reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:42 AM by LightSpeedDriver
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Pursuit of truth? What have you been smoking my friend as I'm sure even in my country of residence it is illegal.

Your logic seems flawed. I should bow down to science because I am sitting at a computer, really? Pulleeze. Just because you think science created the computer does not equate with all that "Science" does is good. I also have no idea where to begin with you, so won't.

"Try and think a little ahead of the story."

If there was a story, I wouldn't need to. Good luck.


reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:45 AM by bknapple32
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I would think it also points more to the big bang being fact and not a theory. But I don't see how any true scientist could ever really say such a thing.

Perhaps this opens up the door to more funding for theoretical physics. Which in turn could open up the door to so many wonderful possibilities.


reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:47 AM by Zarniwoop
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In the article the physicist said the 2012 data is full and is a matter of what kind of higgs boson it is at this point.


Well, actually he said he personally believes it is a HB after looking at the preliminary results of the full data set.

"The preliminary results with the full 2012 data set are magnificent and to me it is clear that we are dealing with a Higgs boson


What could possibly motivate a premature declaration like this?

The discovery would be a strong contender for the Nobel Prize.



reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:47 AM by LightSpeedDriver
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I don't know about you but I paid for the "luxury" (luxury is the new necessity) of being able to use a computer. No scientists were involved in the construction of my PC, the tech required to make them is failry ubiquitous these days. In fact, millions of these technological marvels get shipped to homes and businesses every year and absolutely no scientists are involved.


reply posted on 14-3-2013 @ 10:50 AM by bknapple32
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
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Pursuit of truth? What have you been smoking my friend as I'm sure even in my country of residence it is illegal.

Your logic seems flawed. I should bow down to science because I am sitting at a computer, really? Pulleeze. Just because you think science created the computer does not equate with all that "Science" does is good. I also have no idea where to begin with you, so won't.



"Try and think a little ahead of the story."

If there was a story, I wouldn't need to. Good luck.


I think science invented the computer? Didn't know that one was up for debate. Red flag number 1 on you. I'm smoking something because I know real science is the pursuit of truth? Red flag number 2.

I never said all science is good. Anything can be abused. But you seem to have such vitriol for science its alarming.

Again, and this isn't up for debate. Without science, you wouldn't be going to work, watching your news, or talking to me right now.
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