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posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 08:28 AM
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After typing into Goggle, "Best Evidence of Military UFO Evidence," a History Channel special (dated approx. 3 years ago), popped up.

"The theme of the program is that UFOs exist, but there's a small percentage of sightings that are significant and haven't been explained," said Leslie Kean, author of The New York Times bestseller UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On The Record, which forms the basis of the History Channel special.


The Top three UFO sightings from the History Channel special appear to be:


• In 1986, a Japan Airlines pilot saw what he described as an unidentified flying object over Alaska closely tailing his 747. He made an evasive move. His career was thrown into turmoil, but he never recanted what he claimed he saw.



• In 1987, a Federal Aviation Administration executive says the CIA warned him not to talk about UFOs because the public would panic.

My personal opinion of this incident: Disformation from CIA. The CIA has gone public admitting they used UFO coverstories to spread disinformation about top secret/black aircraft projects. As long as people were mistaking aircraft like the U2 and SR-71 for UFO's they were happy pretending just the same. It's probably the same coverstory Detachment 3/Area 51 uses to conceal their top secret aircraft/drone/missile programs. You have to wonder, now that the public knows we've been duped, what coverstories will the Gov't utilize to continue to keep black projects secrets, if at all???



• In 1997, former Arizona Gov. Fife Symington mocked thousands of people who said they saw mysterious lights over Phoenix, calling out a staffer dressed in a cheesy ET costume at a press conference. Ten years later, he apologized for lying to the media and the public.


What military UFO evidence do you consider to be the most telling?

History Channel Puts Up Best UFO Evidence

edit on 14-3-2013 by Cosmic911 because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 08:42 AM
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www.abovetopsecret.com... Great video. Its been covered here numerous times already though..
For example...



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911

The CIA has gone public admitting they used UFO coverstories to spread disinformation about top secret/black aircraft projects. As long as people were mistaking aircraft like the U2 and SR-71 for UFO's they were happy pretending just the same.


Cosmic911, I'd be tempted to be more than a little skeptical about swallowing Gerald Haines claims about UFOs and the CIA - for example he once claimed that half of all UFO sightings during the late 1950s through the 1960s were due to 'spy planes'..



1997--The CIA and Spy Planes


In a report published at about the same time as the Air Force's "crash dummy" revelation, the Central Intelligence Agency tried to write off thousands of UFO reports as mistaken observations of secret spy planes. It ended up writing fiction.

The first demonstrably incorrect statement was that there had been a major increase in UFO reports immediately following the first test flight of the prototype U-2 spy plane in August 1955. A simple count of cases in the files of Project Blue Book (which the CIA admits it used) shows that there had actually been a major decrease.

Then the CIA claimed that half of almost 9,000 UFO sightings made between mid-1955 and late1969 had been mistaken observations of U-2 and later SR-71 spy planes. Since those airplanes cruise too high to be seen from the ground (at more than 70,000 feet), this could not be the case. Moreover, one of the hallmarks of UFO descriptions in that period was their spectacular maneuvers, including right-angle turns at high speed. Both the U-2 and the SR-71 are among the least maneuverable airplanes used by the U.S. military.

Thirdly, the CIA claimed it had conspired with the staff of the Air Force's Project Blue Book to conceal the alleged sightings of spy planes by having them falsely labeled as obscure types of atmospheric phenomena. Had this been the case, several thousand UFO reports for 1955 - 1969 in the permanent files of Project Blue Book would be blamed on ice crystals, temperature inversions, and so on. But the actual total is barely three dozen.


Why the CIA would invent such an easily disproved story is unknown


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There's also another relevant article below which brings up the points that the spy plane flights were too few in number to account for all the alleged UFO reports; that the flights were carried out in areas far from public view and that the U-2 and A-12 flew at very high altitudes and were difficult to detect with the naked eye - there's also an interesting snippet concerning the then Project Bluebook Chief Robert Friend:




In 1997, Haines claimed that the CIA used UFO reports as cover for spy planes such as the U-2, and that the Air Force knowingly went along with this deception. Always ready to accept CIA material, the `New York Times' ingested the story - hook, line, and sinker. And thus another bogus claim became historical fact.

There are many problems with the claim. First, the CIA is never a credible source about its own history. After all, it is in business to deceive. Second, spy plane flights were too few in number to account for many UFO reports and they were carried out in areas far from public view. Third, the black U-2 and A-12 "Oxcart" flew at very high altitudes and were difficult to detect both visually and (in the case of the A-12) on radar. Fourth, UFO reports of the era bear little if any resemblance to the flight characteristics of high-altitude spy planes.

But most fatally, Lt. Col. (Ret.) Robert Friend, head of the Air Force's Project Blue Book from 1958 to 1963, later said there is absolutely no truth to the CIA's claims. Not only was Haines wrong about an agreement between the CIA and Air Force but Friend said he never received a single UFO report that he thought could be attributed to a spy plane.


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If you want a real look into the official attuitudes of the CIA then check out the contents of actual government UFO documentation and how they managed the 'public perception' of the UFO subject.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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And they are busy this very day managing your perceptions..............what can you trust?:not even yourself @@:



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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when i read the thread title, all i can think of is, "From the Redundancy Department of Redundancy Department"



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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when i read the thread title, all i can think of is, "From the Redundancy Department of Redundancy Department"


So don't read it. Never asked for your opinion.



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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Judging by the title of this thread, you've found evidence of evidence of UFOs?



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Fife Symington....anything new from this guy? Has anyone made a compelling case against his credibility regarding his sighting?



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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It could account for some of the sightings. However, I doubt every aircraft can be explained with man-made technology, unless secretly they developed ways of travelling that are beyond anything known (just by themselves?). Also what's with the splitting of objects, some emerging from others?

It could be a double negative - "We will spread disinfo that these UFOs are man-made by presenting them as aliens, that in term are presented as secret aircraft' no one will ever suspect there is third layer of the truth.



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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Why would anyone describe the U2 as a UFO? I think this is a lame excuse by the military. Just because it was high up, a plane that looks like a plane and sounds like a plane and flies like a plane would be seen as a plane, not a UFO.



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 02:23 PM
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Fife Symington was a pilot and his description of the sighting was just like hundreds of others. Not man made.



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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The fact that he was a Governor is more impressive than being a pilot...as it pertains to coming out and saying he saw one in public....

I was just wondering if he recanted or someone found out he was in the shower at the time and couldn't have witnessed it...just wondering if he survived the usual debunking stuff.



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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I often wonder, why someone would question some of the pilots reports of UFO's based on what the pilot was doing when he saw the UFO. A pilot from the RAF was flying straight, level, on a perfectly clear day and had an encounter with a "saucer" shaped aircraft of unknown origin, at 35000 feet, at a radar range of 1,500 feet! Naw, he just saw Venus, or swamp gas!



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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That pretty much says it all. Skeptics do not want to admit that they might not be the smartest people in the room. So they cannot have ET hanging around.



posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by stirling

And they are busy this very day managing your perceptions


Stirling, I'm sure they are and they're very good at it -don't know if you've looked into the work of Terry Hansen but his book 'The Missing Times' is well worth a read and there are some excerpts here from it -he also pops up in this video explaining how the CIA sponsered Robertson Panel managed the 'public perception' of the UFO subject and concluded that it was 'in the best interest of the U.S. Government to suppress media coverage of UFO sightings' and makes some revealing comments about the use of ridicule and precision propaganda techniques so the subject would be portrayed in a negative light thereby making people reluctant to report their experiences.




Cheers.





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