Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
I hate to believe that you can't see what Jesus was saying. The Temple was totally destroyed and the artifacts and scrolls were stolen . The Temple was utterly destroyed but the lesson was that Jesus is the New Temple that will be in heaven. He was to be raised up in 3 days was the real lesson . As an Atheist I wonder why you are here in this discussion ? Just wondering ?
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by truejew
Who is he that he knows more than anyone else . I have his book and he is as evasive on some things as he is opinionated on others .
Originally posted by sulaw
Happy Easter and Pagan Holiday to all~
Originally posted by amazing
Well I don't believe in the Christian Mythos... so I'm safe. At least on this tribulation.
Originally posted by jcrash
Originally posted by ConspiracyNutjob
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
We really do not know if a treaty has not already been signed. Obama won the nobel peace prize in 2009, which many people thought a little strange given all of the military action by the US. What if Obama was instrumental in some kind of middle east peace agreement behind closed doors precisely three and a half years prior to 21/3/2013 so they award him the nobel peace prize?
At the same time and place that he receives the award we get this little sign in the night sky above Norway:
The media tries to explain it away as a failed missile test...
All of the rhetoric about Iran is simply that... just rhetoric.
Just throwing it out there.
Just a minor quibble. To clarify things about Obama and the Peace Prize, seeing conflicting days. He was awarded it on Oct. 9, 2009 (add 1260 to get Mar. 22, 2013). He received it at the award ceremony on Dec. 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway the day after the Norway Spiral, the night of Dec. 9, 2009. (The wise men followed the star to the prince of peace to give him gifts of gold medal, (frankincense and myhrr). So, one could say the "peace covenant" was "confirmed" (an existing covenant reaffirmed) on Dec. 9/10, 2009. Add 1260 to get May 21, 2013.
Glad you make the distinction for people about the tribulation and the wrath of God.
This is something I had a hard time understanding myself until recently. There are 4 cycles of Revelation, 4 "woes", 1 unspoken woe for the 7 seals (our current timeframe), then Trumpet 5/ 1st woe, then Trumpet 6/ 2nd woe, then Trumpet 7/ the 3rd woe (aka the 7 bowls of wrath.
These last 3 trumpets are the full tribulation, as people understand it (the prior 4 refer actually refer to end time characters as I show above - basically, it goes 1,2,3,4, unspoken woe; 1,2,3,4, woe 1; 1,2,3,4, woe 2; 1,2,3,4, woe 3). 5 months, then 1260 days, then 1260 days. So, 1st there is a 5 month period, then the 6th Trumpet, when the 3rd Temple is started with sacrifices (the Tribulation), then 7th Trumpet (7 bowls of wrath).
At the end of the 6th Trumpet timeframe (Rosh Hashanah, when Jesus returns 2017), good Christians (5 wise virgins) are gathered to the Lord. But! He doesn't take dominion of the world yet. Basically, the last 2 antichrists (AC plus FP) (there's a total of 8 antichrists see Rev. 17:11) exist so as to test the 7th church (all numbers correspond to each other's number in Revelation), the lukewarm Laodiceans who claim to be Christians but are not really. The last antichrist is a worthless shepherd so as to punish the 5 foolish virgins and chasten them until they repent so as to be forgiven and made to realize that they should leave the mark of the beast system (think Brave New World, Indians are Christians and the controlled people in the system are Laodiceans.)
The reason things don't seem to be shaping up so much for this Passover, aside from Obama's major ritual this year is that there is an offset of a year (the Day of the Lord) going to the next Passover. I'm definitely on board with the "Daniel's timeline" but I think the seals start 3-21-13 and then tribulation starting 4-15-14 (and Trumpets 1-5 starting 5 months earlier at 11-16-13).
One worrisome aspect of this Daniel's timeline is that it doesn't address the fact that there is 1 more set of antichrists (AC and FP - Prince William and Harry) to come to test the Laodicean church, the 5 foolish virgins who were not gathered with the Lord at the end of the 6th Trumpet Rosh Hashanah 2017 timeframe. It makes me think that this is the reason for this "Daniel timeline" to be relatively widespread in videos and such.