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Please watch this next clip, its commisioner Olli Rehn - One of the big bosses from Brussels, and hes tellign us why European countries must stop managing their own budgets & hand over all that power to people like him. It is in my view the dullest, most boring, technocratic speech I'v ever heard in my life, and yet Anti-democratic & dangerous at the same time. Watch this clip & I'm sure you will be convineced we shouldnt let these people run our lives
Originally posted by Mijamija
reply to post by n00bUK
I lived in Germany in the 80's and early 90's and things seemed pretty good back then. I was an outsider observing but from what I saw the nation seemed to be stable and prosperous. The last years I lived there, things seemed to be declining, and I have wondered if their entry into the EU had anything to do with it?
Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by n00bUK
Olli Rehn is talking about the Two-Pack proposal which applies to eurozone members and is an attempt to try and combat the eurozone crisis. It is a depressing proposal but it seems like a neccessary evil, there must be stability for the EMU programme to work.
The Two-Pack proposal
Originally posted by n00bUK
I thought this would have had more attention to be fair. If it was to do with America, I'm sure it owuld have had more
Originally posted by Blister
Huh, the EU will continue to eat away at British sovereignty and our rights that successive governments have willingly betrayed by signing away.
It is true that UKIP seems like the best bet for reclaiming UK independence and reasserting our sovereignty. It is also true that the EU has achieved what Hitler failed to achieve, without firing a single bullet.
However, the effects have been equally traumatic for the British people: loss of our right to make and enforce our own laws; the loss of the right to be final judge in legal matters; severe impingement on UK right to have an independent foreign policy; loss of control over our own borders and immigration policy; continued and concerted attacks from the EU upon our own principals of democracy, legal rights, financial regulation, trade decisions, and everything that suggests anything great or traditional about the UK.
The possible referendum on UK membership of the EU, I suggest, is nothing but a red herring designed to serve short-term populist aims of the Conservative Party. None of the main parties (Conservatives included) will stand-up to the EU if trade treaties are threatened. UKIP is an unknown... even if they ever got elected, and if they ever became government would they break those UK-EU trade treaties? Something tells me that no, they would not. Thus we would still be hung by our own petard as the rich and corrupt chase the riches offered by betraying their own land.edit on 13-3-2013 by Blister because: (no reason given)