STATE WIDE REVOLT: New York counties passing resolutions seeking repeal of the new gun laws

It looks like the people of the state of New York are organizing against the draconian gun laws passed in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting. Two thirds of New York counties have either passed or have resolutions in the works seeking the repeal of the new gun laws.

New York Counties Work to Repeal State Gun Control Laws

As Democrats and gun control advocates praise the New York State Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act of 2013, or NY SAFE Act as it is generally known, for being the first post-Newtown gun control legislation in the country, county after county in New York State has either introduced or passed resolutions calling for the law's repeal.

As of March 11, a total of 52 out of New York State’s 62 counties have introduced resolutions requesting the repeal of the NY SAFE Act. Of those 52 county resolutions, 40 of them have already passed — meaning that roughly two-thirds of the counties of New York State reject Governor Andrew Cuomo’s “landmark” gun control legislation.

Of the state’s 10 remaining counties that have yet to introduce any such anti-NY SAFE Act resolution, half of them are in New York City. New York City is composed of five boroughs — Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, Staten Island, and The Bronx — each of which is also a state county (respectively: Kings County, New York County, Queens County, Richmond County, and Bronx County). Outside of New York City, the five remaining counties that have not introduced repeal resolutions are Nassau, Schenectady, Suffolk, Tompkins, and Westchester.

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It must suck living in such a huge state where one population center dictates the laws for the rest of the state. It makes me wonder how election results from that state would turn out if New York City were excluded. If you ask me, the rest of the state should seek to succeed from the city or, better yet, kick them out.

The following is purported to be video of Governor Cuomo when he heard the news of the counties resistance.


This highlights one of the biggest problems with democracy; urbanized population centers are able to dictate policy on much larger areas of the state or country which go against the values of the people who live outside the cities. Its been a problem since our country's founding and was one of the major contributing reasons for the Civil War. People in agrarian regions resent having policy dictated to them from the cities which have no understanding of their way of life.

reply to post by FortAnthem


So if people dont agree with you, you want to "kick them out".
By the way, would you do this to the Cities that agree with your stance as well?

As of March 11, a total of 52 out of New York State’s 62 counties have introduced resolutions requesting the repeal of the NY SAFE Act.

I personally think that even if 60 of the 62 counties wanted to repeal this there would be an epic battle to do so. There is a liberal agenda to take all of the guns, they are at war with the second amendment among others and claim what they do what they do for the good of us all even though they are in the minority on wanting such measures.

Doesn't matter though, they will always tell you "the majority" of Americans want this or want that, it's a lie. The majority of Americans want freedom and want the government to stay within the guidelines of the reason they exist in the first place.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by FortAnthem

 

So if people dont agree with you, you want to "kick them out".
By the way, would you do this to the Cities that agree with your stance as well?

Not if they don't agree, if they use their voting power to enact laws on the rest of the state that most of the rest of the state disagrees with. There needs to be some type of check or balance to prevent cities from imposing their wills upon larger but, less populated agrarian communities.

The vast majority of New York state disagrees with this law but, because the folks in the big city have more votes they can shove stupid laws like this down everybody's throats.

reply to post by FortAnthem


They are guilty of this.

Section 242, Title 18

Deprivation of Rights under Colors of the Law.

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation,
or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory,
Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any
rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the
Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different
punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being
an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed
for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury
results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if
such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a
dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death
results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if
such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated
sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or
an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned
for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to
death.

fine them or stick them in jail.

The county sherriff of these counties should inform the goverment they will not allow this law to be enforced within the jurisdiction of their county.....period.

Hopefully, between the court challenges and the revolt of the outlying counties, someone will realize that they're gonna have a hard time shoving gun laws like this down the people's throats in any state.

They can pass all the laws they like but, if the public officials refuse to enforce them and juries refuse to convict, the new laws amount to nothing more than a waste of ink.

reply to post by FortAnthem


Perhaps it will give the rest of Illinois the confidence to start doing the same.

I certainly understand your point about the large metropolitan areas controlling the vote. However this is why the senate was supposed to be set up like it is, with two senators per state so population wouldn't necessarily influence that particular section of power, shame it didn't work. And it wasn't nearly so much a problem say 100 years or so ago when much more of our population lived and worked agricultural jobs. The population moved from the farms to the cities as family farms were industrialized. Used to be a little bit more balanced than it is today.

Any way I really hope those NY counties suscede. It is to the point that civil disobedience on the part of local government and local citizenry is required to tell the big boys to sit down and shut up, for we run the country,they work for us, not the other way around.

It's never going to happen. The liberal Agenda is too far advanced for them to stop now. I'm pretty sure we can wave goodbye to the second amendment as we know it. Very sad thing as now the American people, in the event that we need to defend ourselves against whatever kind of tyranny, will be at a severe disadvantage with our 10 round clips, limited ammunition, and limited choice of effective weapons.. Say hello to the police state!

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by FortAnthem

 

So if people dont agree with you, you want to "kick them out".
By the way, would you do this to the Cities that agree with your stance as well?

If they try to take your Constitutional rights away, you either kick them out, or put them on trial for treason.

reply to post by texas thinker


As part of the great and convoluted checks and balances of the Constitution, until 1913 Federal Senators were picked by the states' legislatures. After the 17th amendment, Senate races became just another give 'em bread and circuses, election to the highest bidder, sham. It was a great leap forward for criminal efficiency. Instead of having to buy off dozens of legislators, you only had to buy off the two individuals.
guess what other great democracy enhancing event occurred in 1913? hint F-E-D

reply to post by robobbob


Don't forget that it's a lot easier to propogate vote fraud in large urban areas, than it is in the smaller counties.

How many more people voted than actually lived in the philadelphia districts?

Originally posted by S3rvoV3ritas
It's never going to happen. The liberal Agenda is too far advanced for them to stop now. I'm pretty sure we can wave goodbye to the second amendment as we know it. Very sad thing as now the American people, in the event that we need to defend ourselves against whatever kind of tyranny, will be at a severe disadvantage with our 10 round clips, limited ammunition, and limited choice of effective weapons.. Say hello to the police state!

edit on 14-3-2013 by S3rvoV3ritas because: (no reason given)

Baloney! The Second Amendment is the line in the sand. The harder the gun grabbers push, the more push back they will get. Tried to buy any guns or ammo lately? Seen the NRA membership numbers lately? Money talks! The California assault weapon registration bill had less than 5% compliance, I would bet NY will be similar, and gun owners there have not yet begun to fight these UnConstitutional laws.
We need more people Like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz representing us, and I expect that is exactly what will happen...

This is a test case of what will
happen on a national level should
the Gun grabbing movement
continue to proscribe their
irrational fears onto the rest of
us rational reasonable citizens.

The tree of liberty needs watered with the
blood of traitors and patriots every 200 or so
years.
Quote of a famous White Founding Father.

Look up George Washington's Three visions
of America.

I live in NY and the laws in NY only put more ILLEGAL guns that can't be traced in the hands of everyone. I don't know about you but I'm not going to let somebody's personal, corrupt, business practices which have a personal agenda and motive behind it....dictate what I do in my life. I never have and never will.

Just because I don't follow corrupt, self serving manmade laws doesn't make me a criminal either. I am a responsible adult and live in peace with my fellow man/women of every race, creed, and personal preference.

When you vote you are willingly giving man dominion and authority over your life by willingly surrendering your freedom. Most Americans are dumb enough to believe that voting works.

You want to make them bend a knee and submit peacably? We run this country. Everyone stop working for a day week or month and it will instantly get their attention. Stop paying taxes. We have the numbers and we keep this world running.

"liberal agenda" blah blah blah

For the 123123123123123th time, this is not a partisan issue. You're welcome to blindly hate and dehumanize a section of the American population all you want, as that is your right. It's clear those who spew their "liberal" slurs would much rather go to war with their neighbors than the government oppressing them.

But that does not mean that there are not plenty of liberals who are pissed as hell about all of this. All the liberals I know are.

I don't know why I bother though. There are too many ignorant people on this board more interested in getting their hate on, than actually examining issues. Hate for other religions, hate for other countries, hate for other cultures, hate for other Americans because they think differently. We need to rebrand this site Abovexenophobiaplusbigotry.com

reply to post by Malynn


Lol real Liberals model themselves after Thomas Jefferson not Kim Jung Un.
Thanks for trying to derail the thread though. All the liberty lovers I know are the most tolerant people around.

True liberals don't oppress civil rights. That's called being an authoritarian control freak. It's not about having a "difference of opinion" when it comes to the constitution. I don't think I can be any clearer.

reply to post by smarterthanyou


Well, besides you employing the "No Real Scotsman" fallacy, I am unsure that you are using the word "liberal" properly (Liberals are modeled more off The Communist Manifesto that Jefferson, who Libertarians tend to model themselves after....myself included).

perhaps you're right about Jefferson. Today's liberals seem to think the more communist/socialist they get the better. I don't know where this trend started honestly. Everyone should have some disgust for the Fortune 50, Wall Street, the Fed Reserve and our "government" that they've paid off.

I'm about to be responded to on the Alex Jones Show and I'm going to bring up this article. Thanks OP.

-Robbie from NY