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Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by MidKnight
You probably have the same misconception I add - that higgs creates energy and it explains where energy comes from. It doesn't though. The term "god particle" is very misleading. What higgs is actually theorized to do is to create mass from energy. Basically, it turns energy into matter by forming mass carrying bosons. Supposedly, if the higgs boson vibrates or oscillates in the right way, it will create a field that will clump energy together. That's basically all it does. Science still officially says that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
eta: I think that is the sum of it. I might be wrong. Fact check it before you repeat it.edit on 3/12/2013 by Bleeeeep because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by mbkennel
Thanks for the attempt at clarifying that for me. The reason I assumed it was caused by the boson itself is because I think of everything as forms energy takes on. I think there is no such thing as uncontained, and so, force fields, as they are most often perceived, are not real. If there is a "higgs field", the field is some form that energy has taken on. To visualize what I am saying, think of photons as being inert to whatever energy the "higgs field" is made of - photons interact with the field, but they do not react to the field. There is no trading of concepts between them. /rant at physics
I feel more stupid now, but thanks.
My first sight inside the diamond is of the funnels only, like a cluster of funnels, two sets. It is possible to see the two pyramids as if slightly separated so that the base of an upper one can be envisaged, visualised, almost seen, though cohesion is apparent and all eight funnels are radiating from a common centre. Now, I want to record again the experience of the whole phenomenon being pervaded by countless myriads of minutest conceivable, physically inconceivably minute points of light which I take to be free anu and which for some reason are not caught up in the system of atoms at all but remain unmoved by it and pervade it. These are everywhere. They pervade everything, like ... Strangely unaffected by the tremendous forces at work in the atom and rushes of energy, and so forth, they don't seem to get caught up in those or be affected much by them. If at all. They remain as a virgin atmosphere in which the phenomenon is taking place.
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by mbkennel
When I said photons interact with the field it was for lack of better word. I was trying to say it would not react, as in how chemistry thinks of reactions. I suppose it would be better said that they avoid one another like oil and water. I don't think it should be considered physically possible for anything to be totally nonreactive. They must be able to come in contact with one another in some physical sense. When that happens they must at least change course or change properties.
How would you view their non interaction? Just pass through one another like ghosts?
Is that possible?
Do you think there are frequency like dimensions and photons never dip into the higgs frequency? How can they not, in some way react/interact?
Can the smallest unit of space, whatever that may be, be occupied by more than one form of energy?
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by MidKnight
You probably have the same misconception I add - that higgs creates energy and it explains where energy comes from. It doesn't though. The term "god particle" is very misleading. What higgs is actually theorized to do is to create mass from energy. Basically, it turns energy into matter by forming mass carrying bosons. Supposedly, if the higgs boson vibrates or oscillates in the right way, it will create a field that will clump energy together. That's basically all it does.
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by mbkennel
To me, it would seem that logic should dictate that no two object can exist in the same space.
To say that they can and do, would also seem too haste. How would you feel if I said, the higgs field moves out of the way of photons? Like water spreading when oil is at its cusp. How could this be proven false?edit on 3/14/2013 by Bleeeeep because: misspelled haste lol the irony