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Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
reply to post by Spider879
We have studied 1 solar system. That system has life in it. That is a 100% success rate.
Alien Life Forms 100
Loser Scientist 0
Originally posted by frugal
I personally feel it is ignorant to claim there is no life elsewhere.
Originally posted by Druid42
reply to post by Druscilla
There you go again, setting a new parameter that only strengthens the OP: Sophistication.
Sure, we'd like to believe that there is microscopic life thriving in thermal vents in alien oceans as much as they've been detected in our own, bereft of sunlight, yet alive. In that order, microscopic life should be present everywhere, and I wonder if they'll find proof on Mars. Surely meteorites have shown us this recently.
But let's remember extinction events, natural calamities that upset the balance of life. In far away star systems, do the same factors still apply, albeit light years away? Surely.
There's a reason why there are no advanced life forms visiting us. The sophistication required to evolve from a thermal vent to interstellar travel is a huge biological leap, and as previously stated, geological time is not on their side. Take millions of years, as evidenced on our own planet, and lifeforms trying to develop have been besieged by a rather regular series of extinction events. The same would appear to hold true everywhere, due to the lack of evidence of intelligent life, and also due to the rather random interactions of a multiverse full of death dealing asteroid impacts. I won't go into gamma ray bursters from pulsars, but the plausibility factor of life evolving is rather slim when you consider the totality of potential hazards.
There's not enough time for life to become sophisticated enough to become intelligent. The short span we've been "intelligent", like said, is but a drop in the bucket.
To overlap two cultures, almost impossible.
Originally posted by greyer
reply to post by Spider879
Yes there are many news media outlets of skeptical people brushing odd extraodinary things as simple things that could be mistaken - but that is just disrespectful and uncaring to the shaken witness of an extraordinary thing. This is why so many of the real UFO witnesses stopped reporting, or even why the UFO airplane pilot witnesses can't even report at all to begin with. This is also the reason why the government did not disclose after they came so close in 2001 with the discloser project. We have to look at it from the big picture - the witnesses, the government, the coutner intelligence - it is not easy but can be understood, why they don't want us to understand for the simple fact that a space intelligence has come down to earth besides the simple part of occult greed for money or maybe another occult means.