State judge invalidates New York City's ban on large sugary drinks, page 2


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reply posted on 11-3-2013 @ 09:04 PM by MrSpad
Originally posted by mugger
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post by MrSpad



If the ban wasn't goal,why did this Idiot Mayor enact a ban to start?
I'll go that he wanted the ban.What a waste of tax payer money and tying up the court system on this ridiculousness.

If he wanted to get people talking..run ads..etc.


So that every single person in the country would begin talking about how unhealthy these drinks are. And guess what it was cheaper and more effective than any marketing campaign anyone would have come up with. You do not write a law with so many loopholes and no real method of enforcement and expect it to stick.


reply posted on 12-3-2013 @ 08:34 AM by butcherguy
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Everybody knew the ban would not stand in court but, the ban was never the goal.

Well, people are certainly talking about it.... So the goal has been met. Why is Bloomberg going to appeal the ruling???

If you heard the news, Bloomberg says the problem is that people are obese. The law is not about 'sugary drinks' it is the government saying that people are too fat.

The government is going to the trouble of telling people how to live their lives.

Nanny statists suck IMO.



reply posted on 12-3-2013 @ 11:26 AM by Cuervo
reply to post by _BoneZ_



I love the irony here. When the feds override a state law, they get on top of their box of freedom fries and cry about it yet... when a state overrides local city laws that those same people disagree with, it's "FREEDOM AND LIBERTY, WOOOO!"

Be consistent, for crying out loud.


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 11:34 AM by Raist
reply to post by andy1972



Here is an idea. Try personal responsibility.

If you don't want that big of a drink don't drink it. I personally cannot stand the big drinks as they water down too quickly. I much prefer the smaller drinks. The drinks themselves are not the root problem though. The root problem is that people are not getting off their duff more often and working off the stuff the throw down their throat.

Raist


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 12:57 PM by jonnywhite
Originally posted by Raist
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post by andy1972



Here is an idea. Try personal responsibility.

If you don't want that big of a drink don't drink it. I personally cannot stand the big drinks as they water down too quickly. I much prefer the smaller drinks. The drinks themselves are not the root problem though. The root problem is that people are not getting off their duff more often and working off the stuff the throw down their throat.

Raist

We all have vices. Come on. Gimme gimme. What's yours?


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 01:02 PM by Raist
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Do you control your vices or do they control you?

If a person has them is not the question.

Raist


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 02:16 PM by andy1972
Originally posted by Raist
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post by andy1972



Here is an idea. Try personal responsibility.

If you don't want that big of a drink don't drink it. I personally cannot stand the big drinks as they water down too quickly. I much prefer the smaller drinks. The drinks themselves are not the root problem though. The root problem is that people are not getting off their duff more often and working off the stuff the throw down their throat.

Raist


Me thinks you may have hit upon something there !!!

Alas the "root problem" here, is that the majority of the afore mentioned big drinks are knowingly filled with crap that make the addicitive.
That is why the majority of people dont want to leave them..it's that they cant but don't know it.
But, the theme of personal accountability does have a lot to do with it.
We now know the danger that accompanies fast food, it is up to us to protect our children.
But while coke and its competitors are running congress nothing will change in our lifetime.


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 02:24 PM by andy1972
Originally posted by jonnywhite
Originally posted by Raist
reply to
post by andy1972



Here is an idea. Try personal responsibility.

If you don't want that big of a drink don't drink it. I personally cannot stand the big drinks as they water down too quickly. I much prefer the smaller drinks. The drinks themselves are not the root problem though. The root problem is that people are not getting off their duff more often and working off the stuff the throw down their throat.

Raist

We all have vices. Come on. Gimme gimme. What's yours?


To say i have no vices would not be truthful..we all have, and anyone who say's they dont is a liar.
My vice is -
A 750g T-Bone steak.
Garlic mushrooms.
Fries.
A small side salad with rounds of goats cheese served on slices of toasted baguette.
All washed down with a very very very chilled bottle of white wine from Navarra here in Spain.

(snip), if i've got to die of something, i'd prefer to die of a coronary heart disease brought on by eating the above then from eating the (snip) they serve in Mac D's.




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reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 02:29 PM by Raist
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While that might be your vice are you eating it every day or do you control yourself and only eat it from time to time.

Even if you eat every last drop of juice on your plate from such a meal if you are not eating it daily and working off what you take in you are really not hurting your health that much overall.

Your post did make my mouth water a bit.

Raist


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 02:33 PM by Raist
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I drink a few sodas a day myself (very seldom drink a full one for some reason though). I only started consuming sweets regularly last October I am not sure what changed but something has changed a bit. I am hypoglycemic so I cannot eat a lot of them but I do eat them more than before.

I am active enough though that my numbers are good and my weight is right in the middle of where it should be for my age and height.

Raist



reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 03:38 PM by Raist
reply to post by butcherguy



If you ban sports the fat people will have nothing to watch on TV from the couch with their big cola and potato chips?

In a perfect world everyone could be happy. I wonder when we will have one of those?

Raist


reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 06:08 PM by butcherguy
Originally posted by Raist
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post by butcherguy



If you ban sports the fat people will have nothing to watch on TV from the couch with their big cola and potato chips?

In a perfect world everyone could be happy. I wonder when we will have one of those?

Raist

Alas, we will never have a perfect world where everyone is happy.

Wouldn't it be sweet if people were free to pursue their own happiness, provided that they are injuring no one else?
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reply posted on 16-3-2013 @ 06:39 PM by Raist
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I don't know about you or anyone else but I always pursue my happiness. More so in the warmer months than in the cold ones though.

Raist


reply posted on 17-3-2013 @ 04:02 AM by andy1972
Originally posted by Raist
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post by andy1972



While that might be your vice are you eating it every day or do you control yourself and only eat it from time to time.

Even if you eat every last drop of juice on your plate from such a meal if you are not eating it daily and working off what you take in you are really not hurting your health that much overall.

Your post did make my mouth water a bit.

Raist


Raist, if only i could afford to eat that good everyday.
Thats a once or twice a month special if im lucky.
And yes, if you burn off more calories than you take on board you should stay fine.
Lifestyle is as much the culprit if not more than the food and drink.
However that theres even a hint that someone is trying to stop the fast food rot is a good good thing and should be supported 110%.


reply posted on 17-3-2013 @ 06:40 AM by Raist
reply to post by andy1972



I guess I am at the mind set of if they want to get fat and die let them. Same with the guy jumping out of a plane or off a cliff. If they choose to die that way so be it.

As long as everyone leave me alone to do the things I want (that does not hurt others) I will let them do as they please.

Raist


reply posted on 19-3-2013 @ 12:23 AM by proteus33
reply to post by Witness2008



rigging elections and being a major media souce of his own the bloomberg group he can put out untold amounts of propaganda.
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