Gold or Credit and the War to end it all?

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posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 08:39 AM
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I have been musing on some of the current events of late, and with so much going on relative to prophesy, whether or not you believe scripture or you are just concerned about the events of the world please provide some feed back on what I believe is the final scenario to start the war of all wars.

Clearly we are already have a one world economy/monetary system. The paper dollar/petro dollar is what "fuels" the current economy. Once this economy comes crashing to the ground the Petro/American dollar won't be worth the paper it is printed on and inflation will spiral out of control in many countries. Paper money will be dumped faster than toilet paper and people will hold on to anything worth any value. Goods, food, precious metals etc.

This is where it will get interesting. A new monetary system based purely on electronic credits will be adopted by governments world wide and a new economy based off nothing more than 1's and 0's will come in to effect. Posing all sorts of new issues, governments and central banks will control everything. No longer does anyone have access to their own wealth or means of livelihood, it's all controlled. Now what happens when the banks say they will accept Gold as a means of trade for credits?

Nations with vast stockpiles of Gold such as most of the Western world, will have vast amounts of money and purchasing power compared to other countries. These countries that arn't so lucky and are a little ways further down the list, won't except their new found misfortune and demand that credits are distributed evenly and fairly with no Gold or silver backing.

It will be a war on a scale never seen before. A war that will literally determine how the world works and how people buy, sell and live. One half of the world wanting an electronic credit based society and the other wanting a Gold backed credit based society.

Do you think Russia and China would sit idly by as America and the rest of the European member nations laughed all the way to the new Israel controlled banks? No they will not.


This war will set the stage for a number of other prophecies to come true. They are as follows.


The mark of the beast - implemented to provide security on new electronic currency

Peter the Roman - Providing wealth for his people in times of tribulations because of the vaticans massive Gold reserves

A one world currency/Government/Bank - The central bank that controls Gold and Electronic currency officially
governs the world.

And probably many more.

This is my take on the most likely scenario to cause the greatest and final war the world will ever see. If it makes sense to you or you have any information that could support or help steer this theory in the right direction please post your feedback.

Thanks!




posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 11:49 AM
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look into 'the chicago plan revisited', it's an asset based system that, suposedly, the IMF is looking into.
it might make you feel a little better.



posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 12:43 PM
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Clearly we are already have a one world economy/monetary system.

No, we don't. Economies of different countries definitely are much more inter-dependent than at any time in the past, but that is a far cry from having a one world economy. And we most certainly don't have one monetary system.

The paper dollar/petro dollar is what "fuels" the current economy. Once this economy comes crashing to the ground the Petro/American dollar won't be worth the paper it is printed on and inflation will spiral out of control in many countries. Paper money will be dumped faster than toilet paper and people will hold on to anything worth any value. Goods, food, precious metals etc.

Quite likely so in many countries, but not just the whole world. Many countries will not notice the collapse of the US$. Many more will be impacted by it, but their national currencies will not become useless.

End of life as we know it in the USA/West is not the end of the world. Many parts will prosper when the USA/West collapses economically and it is exactly as the US/Western elite desire it.

The collapse may lead to civil unrests and societal collapse in the USA/West, but won't lead to any world war.



posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 01:06 PM
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Gold has nothing to with it...

The value of a nation's currency is based on the "perception" of that nation's economic strength...not gold. The US may be weaker economically, but it is still one of the world's top economies (it is the top, if you count the EU as its separate nations).

The thing is, it is VITAL for the US economy to succeed, because if we fall, we take everything else down with it. For those who produce what we consume, the loss of their major customer is a death blow. Likewise to those whom we supply. We're all in bed together, and if one of us pisses the sheets, we all get wet.



posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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The US may be weaker economically, but it is still one of the world's top economies (it is the top, if you count the EU as its separate nations).

Not for long.

The thing is, it is VITAL for the US economy to succeed, because if we fall, we take everything else down with it. For those who produce what we consume, the loss of their major customer is a death blow.

On the contrary. It is vital for the producer economies to see the US economy collapse. It will allow them to readjust their production strategies for domestic consumption. There may be small hiccups in the short run, but nothing that cannot be addressed through proper planning.
edit on 11-3-2013 by Observor because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 07:50 AM
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Not sure where you learned about economics or political science...but you've likely got an excellent case for suing for a tuition refund....

The US economy will fail soon? Sure.....some reading for you to help...
en.wikipedia.org...

Here's some more, showing how the US Stock Market affects World Markets....
www.worldfinancialwatch.com...

Then, you contradict yourself....why on Earth would the US Elite want to see it fail? What would they possibly gain? No, they'd lose...big time...


Disclaimer: Posting as a member in this thread, not a mod.



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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Not sure where you learned about economics or political science...but you've likely got an excellent case for suing for a tuition refund....

When I am proved right, you can sue for your money back from every source that told you otherwise.

The US economy will fail soon? Sure.....some reading for you to help...
en.wikipedia.org...

Here's some more, showing how the US Stock Market affects World Markets....
www.worldfinancialwatch.com...

You are welcome to assume that will continue till eternity.

Then, you contradict yourself....why on Earth would the US Elite want to see it fail? What would they possibly gain? No, they'd lose...big time...

No, they won't. They know exactly how to achieve that, cause the US economy to collapse and benefit from it. One would have thought the subprime mortgage crisis and the consequences made that eloquently clear. Guess not!



posted on Mar, 12 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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When I am proved right, you can sue for your money back from every source that told you otherwise.


That would be awesome, the student loan on my MBA is a pain in the butt.... Here's to hoping you are correct!



You are welcome to assume that will continue till eternity.


For the sake of the world economy, lets hope I'm correct...


No, they won't. They know exactly how to achieve that, cause the US economy to collapse and benefit from it. One would have thought the subprime mortgage crisis and the consequences made that eloquently clear. Guess not!


Excellent example....of how the elite WON'T benefit from it. There were quite a lot of rich people suddenly in the poorhouse because of that...so just how did the elite benefit from that? Sure, there were a few that made some quick money off it, but that kind of decline isn't of any long term benefit...it was profiting off a quick deal.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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For the sake of the world economy, lets hope I'm correct...

The world will be better off when an unproductive economy collapses. Some readjustments will have to be made, but nothing worse than feeding an unproductive economy to keep it from collapsing.

Excellent example....of how the elite WON'T benefit from it. There were quite a lot of rich people suddenly in the poorhouse because of that...so just how did the elite benefit from that? Sure, there were a few that made some quick money off it, but that kind of decline isn't of any long term benefit...it was profiting off a quick deal.

You seem to have mistakenly equated the accidental rich with the elite and also failed to notice the bankers' bonuses after the banks had to be bailed out by public money to prevent their collapse.

By the way, there is yet another big burst in the offing, the derivatives bubble. And many more accidental rich (not the elite) will be biting dust big time. But the elite are safe, as always.

But the biggest pay off for the elite is not the pay offs from the US stock markets. They are from their investments in the emerging markets.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by Observor
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For the sake of the world economy, lets hope I'm correct...

The world will be better off when an unproductive economy collapses. Some readjustments will have to be made, but nothing worse than feeding an unproductive economy to keep it from collapsing.

Excellent example....of how the elite WON'T benefit from it. There were quite a lot of rich people suddenly in the poorhouse because of that...so just how did the elite benefit from that? Sure, there were a few that made some quick money off it, but that kind of decline isn't of any long term benefit...it was profiting off a quick deal.

You seem to have mistakenly equated the accidental rich with the elite and also failed to notice the bankers' bonuses after the banks had to be bailed out by public money to prevent their collapse.

By the way, there is yet another big burst in the offing, the derivatives bubble. And many more accidental rich (not the elite) will be biting dust big time. But the elite are safe, as always.

But the biggest pay off for the elite is not the pay offs from the US stock markets. They are from their investments in the emerging markets.




star for you.

Yeah, the derivative bubble is the mother of all pops. People are a lot angrier than ever and pitchforks will have their uses again.

The elites are not safe nowadays because of internet, unlike previously.How could they get away this time ?



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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The elites are not safe nowadays because of internet, unlike previously.How could they get away this time ?

They are always safe because few know who they are.

People mistake the rich or people in positions of power for the elite. While some of the rich and some in obvious positions of power do belong to the controlling group, most don't. Most of the elite are faceless. Those of them that are willing to risk being publicly identified occupy the open positions of power, The rest stay behind as advisors, opinion makers, "researchers", "think tanks" etc. The sole reason any of them seek wealth at all is for the power that wealth gives. They are not after increasing their net worth, income or anything material. Put it another way, they are motivated by something most people can't identify. That is their biggest safety.

You can capture and kill some of them, but eventually will yield power to the rest.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 02:00 AM
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I know what you mean. It is enough to take out some cogs in their wheel and they will cease to perform and then they will have to show themselves to keep the charade going. They can be as faceless as they want but eventually their lust for power will be their undoing. Information travel so fast nowadays there won't be enough time for them to hide once they are identified.



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 08:02 AM
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They can be as faceless as they want but eventually their lust for power will be their undoing. Information travel so fast nowadays there won't be enough time for them to hide once they are identified.

They lus after power, but use those who lust after other things in order to accomplish their goals. How do you think they have been successful so far?

The only time they will fail to achieve their objectives is when the others cannot be manipulated into serving their agenda. Others are easily manipualted because they achieve their own goals in the process. If you didn't have anyone willing to subjugate others in order to get rich, achieve fame or some such objectives, those lusting after power will fail. How likely do you think that is?



posted on Mar, 16 2013 @ 08:03 PM
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what everyone keeps forgetting is that TPTB don't care much about the profits and gains they care about control, they'll use the collapse as a way to manipulate the 'masses' to do their bidding.

kinda like taking a minor blow to deal a deadly one.

it's about control not money





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