Interesting Anagrams of the Possible New Pope and The Tower Connection!

Let's go a step or two beyond the obvious "Peter The Roman" references....

Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone

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Tarcisio = Iscariot

Judas Iscariot anyone?

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Now, remove the Tarcisio, and we have

Cardinal Pietro Evasio Bertone

Rearrange those letters and it produces

AN ISCARIOT REPROBATE ONE DEVIL

Reprobate =

rep·ro·bate (rpr-bt)
n. 1. A morally unprincipled person.
2. One who is predestined to damnation.
adj. 1. Morally unprincipled; shameless.
2. Rejected by God and without hope of salvation.
1. To disapprove of; condemn.
2. To abandon to eternal damnation. Used of God.

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Spooky stuff, huh?

Now, have a look at the Cardinal's coat of arms -



Then, have a look at the Tower Tarot Card -



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Thoughts?

Some background on the tarot card would be useful.

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The Tower is one of the clearest cards when it comes to meaning. False structures, false institutions, false beliefs are going to come (or have already come) tumbling down, suddenly, violently and all at once. This sort of prediction can scare anyone, especially as the one you're reading for likely does not know that something is false. Not yet. To the contrary, they probably believe that their lover is being faithful, that their religious beliefs are true and right, that there are no problems in their family structure, that everything is fine at work...oh, and that they're fine. Just fine, really.

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Hmmm. Pope benedict XVI

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YES...good catch

Very interesting indeed should we see the fall of the Vatican. How old is that card?

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The one I posted is from a 1909 deck, the Rider-Waite tarot deck...

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Interesting anagrams.

Looks almost like a UFO under the canopy and between the two keys in his coat of arms.

It will be interesting to see how this election plays out in light of St. Malachy prophesy.

Good thread.

Originally posted by 1PLA1
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Interesting anagrams.

Looks almost like a UFO under the canopy and between the two keys in his coat of arms.

It will be interesting to see how this election plays out in light of St. Malachy prophesy.

Good thread.

It's a hat

always was always will be

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Great thread need to do some research before a serious reply
SnF

from the op...

the '2 keys' would be the keys of peter...

from St. Alphonsus Liguori, The Dignities and Duties of the Priest (1927)...

"The priest has the power of the keys, or the power of delivering sinners from Hell, of making them worthy of Paradise, and of changing them from the slaves of Satan into the children of God. And God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priests, and either not to pardon or to pardon." If this is true, then a system determines your eternal future, rather than God

then there is this symbol...

The PX symbol is the staff of the godOsiris, and the point on the circle represents phallic organs.

from Albert G. Mackey, A Manual of the Lodge

also, i would think the 'M' with the little 'sun' above it would be a sign for...

Mithra has the following in common with the Jesus character:
* Mithra was born on December 25th of the virgin Anahita.
* The babe was wrapped in swaddling clothes, placed in a manger and attended by shepherds.
* He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
* He had 12 companions or "disciples."
* He performed miracles.
* As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace. * Mithra ascending to heaven in his solar cart, with sun symbolHe ascended to heaven.
* Mithra was viewed as the Good Shepherd, the "Way, the Truth and the Light," the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah.
* Mithra is omniscient, as he "hears all, sees all, knows all: none can deceive him."
* He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
* His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
* His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper."
* Mithra "sets his marks on the foreheads of his soldiers."
* Mithraism emphasized baptism.

what's up wit dat?

Okay, some research done.

Nostradamus century two quatrain 93

Very near the Tiber death threatens, shortly after the great flood.
The head of the church will be taken prisoner and cast out, the castle (Saint Angelo) and the palace (Vatican) in flames.

Saint Malachy in 1138 made a pilgrimage to Rome; during the course of his visit to the papal city he experienced an ecstatic trance during which he uttered 112 Latin phrases. From his contemporary celestinus11 to doomsday. After John Paul II, whom he thought was the labour of the sun there are only two popes remaining on Malachy's list. Foreseeing the final Catholic apocalypse St. |Malachy said "in the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, Peter the Roman will occupy the seat. He will guide his flock through numerous tribulations. These tribulations pass, the town of seven hills will be destroyed and the terrible judge shall judge the people.,

Nostradamus century 7 quatrain 36

God, the heavens, all the divine words in the waves, (radio and tv communication?) carried by seven red shaven heads (catholic cardinals) to Byzantiun; against the anointed 300 from Trbizond, will set forth two laws, first horror then trust.

The first line of this quatrain could be a 16th century attempt to describe the widespread use of modern telecommunications by all religions, The rest could chronicle the peaces efforts of a future pope. The last line may promise that the horror of war will be replaced by a new peace settlement.

No mention of the UFO hat though

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
from the op...

the '2 keys' would be the keys of peter...

from St. Alphonsus Liguori, The Dignities and Duties of the Priest (1927)...

"The priest has the power of the keys, or the power of delivering sinners from Hell, of making them worthy of Paradise, and of changing them from the slaves of Satan into the children of God. And God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priests, and either not to pardon or to pardon." If this is true, then a system determines your eternal future, rather than God

then there is this symbol...

The PX symbol is the staff of the godOsiris, and the point on the circle represents phallic organs.

from Albert G. Mackey, A Manual of the Lodge

also, i would think the 'M' with the little 'sun' above it would be a sign for...

Mithra has the following in common with the Jesus character:
* Mithra was born on December 25th of the virgin Anahita.
* The babe was wrapped in swaddling clothes, placed in a manger and attended by shepherds.
* He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
* He had 12 companions or "disciples."
* He performed miracles.
* As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace. * Mithra ascending to heaven in his solar cart, with sun symbolHe ascended to heaven.
* Mithra was viewed as the Good Shepherd, the "Way, the Truth and the Light," the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah.
* Mithra is omniscient, as he "hears all, sees all, knows all: none can deceive him."
* He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
* His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
* His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper."
* Mithra "sets his marks on the foreheads of his soldiers."
* Mithraism emphasized baptism.

what's up wit dat?

That's cool if you take the 25th Dec as Christ's birth date

However

How can we know the exact day--and nearly the hour--of the birth of Jesus?
Simple arithmatic. A child could have done it, if only the basic assumptions had been correct. But they weren't. In the 19th century, critical scholars made a crucial decision to reject a total lunar eclipse in January 1 BC and to accept instead one in March 4 BC, as the chronological cornerstone for dating the death of Herod the Great, and thereby, the possible birth years for Jesus.

By so doing, the critics could argue Jesus had to born before 4 BC, contradicting Luke, who tied Jesus' 30th year to the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, 27-28 AD. Luke effectively placed the birth in 3 BC, as did many of the early church fathers.

Ironically, even the date used by the Pope during the Christmas Eve midnight mass ritual is itself consistent with the last half of 3 BC. The dirty little secret is that virtually all the available evidence has always pointed at the harvest period of 3 BC as the focal point of the Nativity--including the possibility of a late summer birth.

By rejecting Luke, scholars also threw out the date of the birth Luke gives in his Gospel. In his second chapter, Luke tells what happened the day Mary came to the Temple for purification 40 days after the birth of Jesus. All one has to know is what day this was. And Luke plainly names the day.

In fact, he includes three statements identifying the day. So what day was this? Yom Kippur. The Day of Atonement. The 10th day of the seventh month of the Hebrew calendar. In Luke's time, Yom Kippur was called three things: The day of the "Fast," the day of the "Purification,"and the day of "Redemption." Luke uses all three to identify the day Jesus was brought to the Temple.

And he even quotes the Torah rule that mandates the 40-day period for the mother to wait after the child's birth [Lk 2:22-38]. And if there were any doubt that it was Yom Kippur, Luke tells of a woman named Anna who had been in the Temple for a "night and day" without leaving.

There was ONLY ONE DAY A YEAR when a person could pray overnight in the Temple: Yom Kippur. All other days, the Temple was locked at sundown.

This shows the 40th day of Mary's Purification had begun at the end of Yom Kippur, the end of the 10th day of the 7th month, because we know the Purification was done at the earliest opportunity--at the beginning of the 40th day after birth.

And since the 6th month normally had only 29 days, simple arithmatic shows Mary's 39 days of Purification had to have begun around sundown on the 1st day of the 6th month, called Elul.

This was the night of the first sighting of the new moon of Elul. The Magi in Babylon were recording this sunset sliver of the new moon on a clay

The cuneiform tablet the Magi made at that hour 2000 years ago, along with thousands of others from Babylon, resides in the British Museum. It is possible that this clay tablet was inscribed by one of the famous Magi who later brought a strange set of gifts to Bethlehem. So the new moon seen by the Magi in Babylon at the very moment of Jesus being born is recorded on one of the tablets now in London. Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC.

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Interesting post, thanks.

16th century? XVI on the tower...

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I'll have look
good point

Not enough centuries in my records,

However if we take X as marks the spot

we get century 6 quatrain 82

Through the wilderness of unguarded and sullen rank,
the nephew of the great pontiff will come come to wander;
beaten to death by seven with a heavy staff,
by those, who afterwards will occupy the chalice




If we take the pope's age 86 and then take off the length of his papacy 8 years, we get 78
century 6 quatrain 78

to cry victory of great Selin growing crescent,
by the Romans will the eagle be clamoured for,
Pavia, Milan, and Genoa will not consent to it,
then by themselves the great king reclaimed

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A signal from above? Lightning hits St Peter's hours after Pope Benedict stuns cardinals with first resignation in 600 years

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Proponents of the prophecies claim that Pope Benedict XVI corresponded to the pope described in the penultimate prophecy. The list ends with a pope identified as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will allegedly bring the destruction of the city of Rome and usher in the beginning of the Apocalypse.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
from the op...

the '2 keys' would be the keys of peter...

OR in a less symbolic religious spin...

the 2 keys, One Gold & One Silver represent wealth, gold & silver coin & bullion

the Px shield and the other M shield spell it out..... Precious Metals

the small tower at the bottom is a replacement symbol for the fiat money system ... a device to represent the Banking Cult who manipulate real money from their inpregnable Towers...
the tower symbol is really replacing what Jon saw in Revelation (i.e. prostitute upon the dragon described in Revelation)

the 2 'pyramids' on either side is the heirarchy of resources being drained away into the red-hat mothership
that used the Gold & Silver Keys of wealth to strip the (uninitiated) global population of both life, time & money

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Good eye.

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I have never, personally, seen the Tower card, in all my years as a cartomancer, as meaning anything final. To me, the Tower has always represented a period of turbulent metamorphosis. Unlike Death, which represents a clean transition, the Tower represents a very dirty, trying experience. One which will take the reserves of the Querent to their limits before retreating and allowing for new growth.

I can still see how the resignation of a Pope, which casts considerable doubt on the Papacy in general, could be equated with the Tower card though. I've certainly made the connection that this is most likely a turbulent period of upheaval within the hierarchy of the Vatican. With any luck though, they will re-emerge as a newly realized institution, one which has cast off the cloak of the Old Age, and been reborn into the new one.

I'd also like to point out that an infant born with HIV was cured, within seven days of the Pope's resignation. Perhaps some kind of divine, poetic association there? Pope leaves, and a plague on the human condition is cured? Thoughts?

As for the crest...

the Keys are, as someone else said, those of St. Peter. They represent the Keys to the Kingdom, which grants one wisdom and understanding of the holy ways of the Lord. Interestingly, behind them is a Cross Lorraine, which represents the Kaballah, or Jewish "Tree of Life." One of the passages on the Tree is known as the Fifty Gates of Wisdom, or Binah, the Great Mother. Similar to the ancient Hebrew practice called the Counting of Omer, the Fifty Gates represent attaining wisdom of the nature of existence... perhaps being given the Keys to the Kingdom?

The "PX" symbol is actually the Greek letter Chiro. and it represented the divinity of Jesus Christ. In fact, and don't quote me on this, but I believe it is even the first letter of Christeos, the Greek word for "Christ." So that would explain why a Chiro is present in the crest.

The little tower probably represents the Church, Jesus' earthly temple, and the "Bride of Christ," analogous to His kingdom in Heaven, and such.

I don't have much theory on the other symbols, they're probably too deeply immersed in Christian lore for me to make sense of. Interesting thread though.

~ Wandering Scribe