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Originally posted by NarcolepticBuddha
There are 4 words that have carried me through much of my life: "Don't worry, be happy." These were the last words spoken by an Indian saint who took a lifetime vow of silence.
It really does make a lot of sense. Really, what is there to worry about? Don't be so attached to things that you are inflexible to different outcomes. Every river leads to the sea as long as you're not fighting to swim back upstream. Just kick back and go with the flow, making course corrections when and where you can (what the Taoists call Wu Wei.)
Originally posted by bb23108
However, the typical interpretation of what "going with the flow" means is being surrendered to whatever is arising and taking it in stride. But isn't this going with the flow exactly what keeps us stuck in this endless pattern - life after life after life? The flow IS the endlessly replicating pattern!
But isn't the actual flow exactly the same as the pattern endlessly replicating itself? I didn't mean that one should try and swim against the flow - that will not be effective, just more of the same life struggle.
Originally posted by NarcolepticBuddha
Hmm, well I interpret these little axioms to mean "Hey, fix what you can--accept what you can't; either way, stop complaining,keep your spirits up, enjoy the view." I think that's very wise, and that is true liberation. I think fighting against the currents, trying to swim back upstream, is what keeps us stuck and stagnant.
Originally posted by crzayfool
The transfer of energy/resource is what reincarnation is...
The word reincarnation was created and adopted by religion and, I think, misinterpreted by today's society from how it was first understood hundreds if not thousands of years ago.
The miss interpretation is this; You don't "come back".
You will die and you will rot/burn. However your corpse is disposed of it will get recycled into the ground, air or sea. This in my eyes is what reincarnation is. Unfortunately the word reincarnation itself has been made out to be more appealing than it probably is.
The energy in my body, if I have a sea burial, will be transferred into the water
Originally posted by KatieVA
I really, really enjoyed reading this!
It's like when you have a dream - and as soon as you wake up, you can remember every detail of the dream but when you try to remember it later on in the day, it's completely gone from your memory. I wonder if reincarnation is like that? Which may explain why supposedly, very young children remember details from their past lives but then forget as they grow older. It fascinates me!
There have been a few instances in my life where I've been convinced that I've been here before. For instance, when I met someone for the first time who has been a very influential person in my life (when they were in it - we have no communication now). Literally the first thing I thought as soon as I saw him was, "oh. it's you. "...with an overwhelming feeling we'd known each other before, and not in a positive way.
Since becoming a mother - I've always wondered if the reason why some babies are born so placid and calm and others are hard to settle, irritable, clingy etc - could be because of how peaceful/traumatic their previous life had been? It makes a lot of sense to me.
Originally posted by IceHappy
edited to say I am ready for the reset only afraid of dying... LoL came close so many times in the past n now scared it will hurt... wot a pus I R - Chronic pain over time will do that.. Guess I am now waiting on God! Tired with not much left to give.....edit on 3/11/2013 by IceHappy because: edited to say I am ready for the reset only afraid of dying... LoL came close so many times in the past n now scared it will hurt... wot a pus I R Chronic pain over time will do that...
I just feel like giving you a big, big hug. It's all gonna be fine.
You know, if you think of it this way ... if reincarnation is true it means you have lived a lot of times before and died a lot of times too and still you came back to do it all over again. Maybe that means the process inbetween isn't so nad at all ... extra DIV
My question to you, then, is: to what end? If you deconstruct selfish, fear-based ideas, you will find that they all have an end. I'll give you a couple of examples:
Originally posted by Murgatroid
I became convinced about reincarnation last year after I realized that counterfeit religion is all one huge lie.
When I began to see that reincarnation was connected to false religions, that's when I knew that it was just another ploy to mislead people away from the truth.
"Why would Satan bother coming up with a big lie about reincarnation? What's the point?"
Mankind has an innate desire to commune with God. It is in our nature, because God put it there. Satan will use any means available to lead people away from God. He doesn't have to get people to believe there is no god, he simply has to get them to not believe in the Christian God. A simple way for him to do this is with counterfeit religious experiences such as "reincarnation past-lives."
Reincarnation -- Satan's Second-Biggest Lie
Hinduism, Buddhism, and New Age beliefs are deceptions.
Through Hinduism and Buddhism, and their core belief of karma and reincarnation, Satan has deceived many people into accepting and believing that by doing good works, a person would qualify to have his spirit elevated from one lifetime to the next in order to eventually reach a state of spiritual ‘enlightenment’.
I believe even rational and logical thinking persons can choose to believe in ‘reincarnation’. This is because they have been deceived by demonic spirits. They are rendered blind to reason and logic regarding spiritual matters.
Through Hinduism and Buddhism, Satan and his fellow demonic spirits have deceived many generations of people in large parts of the world into unwittingly allowing their bodies and souls to be possessed. This permits the demonic spirits to 'reincarnate' in them serially.
Satan inspired Hinduism and Buddhism with the core beliefs of Karma and reincarnation.
The concept of reincarnation has been debunked by the concept of demonic spirit possession explaining all the ‘evidence’ proffered for reincarnation.
Hence reincarnation is a lie and Hinduism, Buddhism, and New Age beliefs are deceptions. They bear the signature of Satan. Source
Originally posted by htapath
The ability to attain and discern the ultimate truths in regards to the nature of the 'great mystery of life' lies within each of us.
True enough about scientific discovery, various conditional manifestations, etc. - but is this true of Reality Itself? Is this true of reincarnation?
Originally posted by htapath
What was considered the truth a century, decade, year, or even a week ago may not be at all applicable here and now.
Originally posted by htapath
I urge you not to believe anything I've written here.
Originally posted by htapath
What was considered the truth a century, decade, year, or even a week ago may not be at all applicable here and now. This is a time of transition, and the time for belief has been left in the dust.
Healthy debate is never a bad thing. But throwing our beliefs around like daggers is never a good thing. This isn't aimed at anyone or any idea in particular.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
Originally posted by htapath
Believing something, regardless of how significant or small it may be, is comparable to sucking on a pacifier. .
a proposition, or set of propositions, set forth as an explanation for the occurrence of some specified group of phenomena, either asserted merely as a provisional conjecture to guide investigation (working hypothesis) or accepted as highly probable in the light of established facts.
To believe ANYTHING is, in my view, potentially setting ourselves up for a fall.
But throwing our beliefs around like daggers is never a good thing.
I did not mean to imply that knowing all kinds of things does not happen due to inner and outer processes of the body-mind. I was only talking about absolute realization of Reality Itself or real Enlightenment.
Originally posted by htapath
reply to post by bb23108
I cannot offer you proofs, nor do I think that you would expect them. There is no substitute for knowing, and I will leave it at that. While there are certainly some aspects of reality that cannot be known from our current perspective, this does not diminish what we have the ability to know, and ease the burden shall we say.
Yes, this is true relative to conditional arising, but what about the Unconditional Reality all such changes arise in? It is beyond all change.
Originally posted by htapath
The only constant is all encompassing change.
Originally posted by htapath
Thank you for the intelligent exchange bb 23108. To see through the eyes of many is a great teacher, and we are all students in this regard.