Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
Mate I respect your faith, and your believe in it. I really do.
But you see, even Christianity, is a religion based on fear, like so many. One of the signs of a cult or sect. Using fear to control your
subordinates. You sin, you go to hell. You will be judged, you will be punished. It instills fear, and can therefore be used to control.]
I'm not saying these things to detract the importance of the truth of what you've said, because I do believe that Organized Christianity is
manipulative. It is not only apparent to many athiests, but it is also apparent to those who read the bible and take it seriously.
According to the bible, EVERYONE is going to be judged, and the first to be judged are those of God's household. The bible also says that God punishes
those whom he loves while they are still alive, it's like refining gold, when under the smelting process (trials and tribulations tests) what we hide
beneath the surface rises to the surface, and ultimately we ourselves need to make the decision to remove the impurities from our lives lest the
leaven of hypocrisy leaven the whole lump and we become like these guys:
Ezekiel 22:18 "Son of man, the people of Israel have become dross to me; all of them are the copper, tin, iron and lead left inside a furnace. They
are but the dross of silver.
You see, through the bible we are warned and not kept ignorant, we are taught and not kept unclean by it.
Psalm 19:9-11 Reverence for the LORD is pure, lasting forever. The laws of the LORD are true; each one is fair. They are more desirable than gold,
even the finest gold. They are sweeter than honey, even honey dripping from the comb. By them your servant is warned; in keeping them there is great
God's love for us can be likened to a parent who disciplines their child because the child is loved and needs to know that there are negative
consequences to certain actions, that there is a cause and effect, for we do not live in a wolrld inundated by butterflies and rainbows, negative
effects are indeed possible, sure it does not help to be fearful of the negative, but it does not help to be ignorant of the negative either, of this
I'm sure you're aware. God puts his teachings in terms we can understand, a fruit tree that was MADE to bear fruit is to be chopped down if it remains
utterly barren, here's how Jesus explained it:
Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered,
“Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you
repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the
others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree growing in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it but did not find any. So he said to
the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it
down! Why should it use up the soil?’
“‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. If it bears fruit next year, fine! If
not, then cut it down.’”
Here is a warning to priests:
Malachi 2:1-3 "Listen, you priests--this command is for you! Listen to me and make up your minds to honor my name," says the LORD of Heaven's Armies,
"or I will bring a terrible curse against you. I will curse even the blessings you receive. Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you have not
taken my warning to heart. I will punish your descendants and smear on your faces the manure from your festival sacrifices, and I will throw you on
the manure pile.
It is interesting to me that God tells them beforehand that he'd smear manure on their faces, fertilizer.
IMO everyone was meant to have some form of control, namely Self-control.
Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against
such things there is no law.
There is no law against self-control, yet many folk appoint people over them to create laws for them to live by, but this earthly system is
edit on 10/01/11 by Wonders because: To add.