As ever. Thanks for your continuing enlightenment!
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
If Adam was god then who was talking to him and Eve in the garden?
If Adam is one heel of the loaf and Jesus the other, wouldn't that mean everyone after Jesus is not included in the loaf?
If Adam is the father of mankind, wouldn't that mean everyone is a son of god since we all descended from Adam?
Just a few questions I had.
Originally posted by stupid girl
Jesus is without sin.
Adam was created from matter within creation, receiving only the Spirit of Life. Jesus is the Word of life.
Jesus was begotten of God Himself through a Y chromosome, yet fully God and fully man. Although truly a mystery of our faith, Jesus of Nazareth was the projection of an extension of God Himself born within His own creation to reconcile all things back to Himself. Jesus is the image of the image-less God both in form and spirit. A mystery of our faith.
God created because He loves. And because He loves with a perfect love, It was always His intention to ransom Himself for the inevitable fall of His own creation which He chose to impart with the Pandora's box of free will. Our fall and reconciliation was the only way. He loved us from the beginning. First, we were loved, then we were saved, and then we were created.
God said let there be light. Then there was light. The first act of creation was God projecting Himself within His own creation. Jesus is the spoken Word of creation = God manifesting Himself through His own spoken Word as light.
Truly, by Him all things were made. He is the True Light, He is the Word , He is the begotten Son of Man. And although He is a type of spiritual Adam, He is not the created physical Adam.
God will rule His own creation via His incarnation within it, as the begotten and resurrected Jesus Christ, wholly and perfectly reconciled to Himself because He experienced it with us in sinless perfection.
ETA: Lazarus addressed topic of my post much more succinctly while I was still typing mine & trying to feed kids & change diapers at the same time Lol
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short
reply to post by EnochWasRight
That's right. Adam and Christ are the same. One is the Father and the other is the Redeemer. Both are God.
By some logic you have arrived at a conclusion I cannot agree with. Adam is created, and most certainly NOT God. Thoughts as well as spelling/grammar need to be edited.
The reason for involution is Delight - the Delight of Being (the Spirit or Absolute) moving to Delight of Becoming (temporal existence, the cosmos). Being throws itself forward into a multiplicity of forms, becoming lost in the inconscience of matter, and then through evolution it partakes in the Delight of rediscovering the Spirit which had been hidden in the interim.
Evolution is thus the movement forward by which the created universe evolves from its initial state of inconscience (i.e. as matter), evolves animated life forms and mental beings (i.e. humans), and continues to evolve spiritual properties, and in that process rediscovers its Source. Such an Evolution of animated forms is only possible because at each stage of development, the developing entity contains within itself the conception of what it may become. Thus, the evolution of animated life out of matter supposes a previous involution of that animated capacity. This is akin to a seed that already has the essence of the tree that will emerge from it.
Each plane emerges from an earlier plane through the evolutionary process, which takes place in chronological time. But in a parallel construction, each of these new planes can be understood as being a descendent of its corresponding higher order plane from the Infinite. Thus, when mentality emerged in the universe, the universal plane of Mind was implanted to a degree in those beings harboring that mentality.
The evolution is the development of all entities in the cosmos, including humans, in order to attain their fulfillment, including the discovery of spiritual Delight, which was, and always is, the experience of the Source Creator. The evolution is the progressive development from the original inconscience of matter into life (movement, sensation, desire, etc. and living physical beings), and from thence to mind (in conscious animals and most especially humans - the self-conscious thinking animal), and from thence to spiritualized mind, culminating in the The Supermind or Truth Consciousness (as supramental individuals, and finally the supramental, i.e. a divine life on earth.)
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by EnochWasRight
To believe this "Adam" to be the Father of man kind is also to believe at one point in human history there was only ONE person on the planet...
I have huge issues with that theory...
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"I have huge issues with that theory..."