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Parents lose custody of children for a month after innocent bathtime photos developed at Walmart

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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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I'm trying to understand why it's necessary. I haven't asked a difficult question. I did ask first.


nones say it was a necessary.

And to answer your question, when your kids are running around naked after the bath, being little savages, acting all cutes, or screaming around ,butt naked after bath, kids being....kids...., its one thing you want to keep , pictures of your kids being happy being kids, not giving a damn about being naked or not.




posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper

Originally posted by PsykoOps

Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Why are people taking naked pictures of their children?


Why wouldn't they? Even one reason?
I'm trying to understand why it's necessary. I haven't asked a difficult question.

I did ask first.


As I have already told you, these bath time photos that we are talking about in this thread
are a tradition that many parents have. This tradition has been going on, most likely, since
cameras were invented.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps

Because they wanna remember their children as they were? Is that good enough? Can you refute that?


That made me smile. Perhaps only a parent could feel why. They grow up so quick.

There is nothing sexual about a child's body. Parents just want to remember their children as they were.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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You want to remember your children naked?



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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I saw this earlier online and couldn't believe it yet I could.

I worked in a photo lab for a grocery chains after high school and we were told we had to report "questionable" photos to management and then the cops. This included nude pics of kids or pictures that looked like they were "illegal" in nature. I don't know what they expected to find but I didn't see anything out of the norm. I saw all kinds of pictures but never anything that warranted the cops be notified. I saw many pics of babies or toddlers in the tub playing or streaking the living room. Those are not pornographic! It's call memories. There was a time when pics like this were the norm now you have to worry about someone reporting you for being a child perv! My mom has plenty pics of my sister and I in the tub or running around sans clothes as babies.

I am glad they sued, they had every right. They did nothing wrong and those Wal Mart employees ruined this family's life for a year with their kids.

Too many people open their mouths too often when they shouldn't. This is one of those times.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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This tradition has been going on, most likely, since cameras were invented.

the tradition has been going on for centuries, beginning with paintings.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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Does anyone think that making a pic to the child serves as a memory . He can see himself naked 20 years later and laugh. Why every one in blessed America or west Europe first thing in mind has the pedofil parents. How can you imagine a parent is able to abuse with his child sexually. Does anyone remember anymore than embracing or kissing the child mean love even if the child is naked. What the hell is happening in US. Does anyone understand that the base of healthy family is expressing love, kissing and embracing is not a crime. If you don't show love to your kid, what you expect from, when grows up he will do the same, forget about you and his kids will forget about him, and the story will continue. The children service is not a joke, it is an instrument to destroy the base of the society and civilization, the family.
Don't say anymore God Bless America,but God Helps the America.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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How do you know the kids did not play and enjoy the time away from their parents, how do you know how traumatizing it was.


Tell me how fun , being taken away from your parents,from your home, from your friends, with a doctor asking you where your parents touched you, with the police asking you if your parents took bad pictures of you, tell me HOW fun it can be, please.

Oh im sure they enjoyed the time away from their parents.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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American parents live in a Nanny State. No longer do we get to say how our children should be raised or are allowed to do what used to be considered a staple to any family photo album.

The reality is, everyone is to busy nosing into everyone else's business, to pay attention to what's happening under their own roof. What you might see as a sexual pose, might be in earnest nothing more than an innocent action. Who are you to judge what something is or isn't? Just goes to show you have a problem, not the family.

The way the law is written is for the minority than the majority (no matter how "common" something might be, doesn't change the fact that it's still happening to the minority) and because of this, all are punished.

Those poor kids. Imagine how confused they were, being pried from their loving mother and father's arms into a cold sterile environment as a state foster home and were told that their parents had abused them because of photos. Imagine how frightened and alone they must of felt for a month away from the only home they knew and the life they held. It's hard enough on children who were legitimately abused, but those who lived in a loving supportive environment are left to wonder what they did wrong? And what's worse, they are most likely told it was their parents fault which would fuel resentment and rebellion against people who have done NOTHING WRONG!!!

What should have been done, before the family was contacted by CPS, was a judge should of evaluated the photos first, then agreed to decree a warrant to seize the children. If that had been done first, then the judge would of thrown it out long before those poor children and innocent parents were even contacted.

They won't do that, because that costs the state money (money they can not make back with possible fines on the parents) and it's easier to assume everyone who reports something is truly concerned and looking out for a child's sake, instead of revealing their own personal issues and problems. It's easier to accuse the parents, and make them out to be molesters, than to obtain the truth.

Anyone who defends the CPS or the Walmart employee in this, makes me sick. Seriously, how can you read that a JUDGE saw the photos and declared them NOT PORN and justify what the state and Walmart's employee's actions?

But, we have a nanny state after all..... so, lets all pay attention to what someone we have no idea about is doing, to keep the minority safe. That will solve the problem... NOT!



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:42 PM
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I'm not a parent myself. I've studied the topic to some degree thought. This might rustle some jimmies but I've seen pictures of naked kids. Hundreds of pictures. None which I had any affiliation with. Nude art is quite a big thing in the real world. Nothing sexual about it.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:43 PM
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No, i want to remember them happy.

i aint gonna tell them "stop, hammer time, get some clothes on, stop playing"

Its in the moment, not premeditate, but it seem the logic here really dont reach you.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:45 PM
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First story I wake up to is this and now I think I might just go back to bed...



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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You want to remember your children naked?

what do you have against nudity? this is a non-sexual case taking place in the privacy of their own home, and i guarantee those photos have been seen by more people BECAUSE the couple was accused of child porn.

children do cute things, and such moments often happen in the bath.

your reasoning is so backwards. next bathing your child will be considered sexual assault.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:47 PM
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HOW CAN GOOGLE PERMIT THIS KIND OF THINGS

CALL THE COPS !!!

for the security of the kids



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by AnonyWarp



HOW CAN GOOGLE PERMIT THIS KIND OF THINGS

CALL THE COPS !!!

for the security of the kids


Google may permit it but Walmart and the Child Protection Agency may err on the side of protecting the baby...

Speaking of Google, I did a search (for this thread) 'Nudes famous children'. Basically almost no pictures of nude kids came up. It looks as if Google has been bitten by the same bug as Walmart. Everyone is assumed to be a pedophile.





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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by AnonyWarp
reply to post by Creep Thumper
 


No, i want to remember them happy.

i aint gonna tell them "stop, hammer time, get some clothes on, stop playing"

Its in the moment, not premeditate, but it seem the logic here really dont reach you.
Actually it's all reached me and then some. I worked with sexual offenders for close to 30 years.

This thread has been educational to say the least. People are unable to grasp all perspectives.

When you work with these people you really think about the victims. A lot.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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there were 144 photos from their trip, and only "several" contained nudity. the article even has one of the photos embedded, and they're covered up in a towel.

to even assume the photos were child porn is crazy.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper
When you work with these people you really think about the victims. A lot.


It's already been established that the children were only victims of over jealous cps. Parents were also victims. So I guess your statement applies when you take that into consideration.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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Care to elaborate ?



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper
I worked with sexual offenders for close to 30 years.

This thread has been educational to say the least. People are unable to grasp all perspectives.

When you work with these people you really think about the victims. A lot.


The three girls were not victims of pedophilia. They were victims of the Child Protection Agency who seized them from their parents for a month and subjected them to genital examinations to check for sex abuse.

Can you imagine how frightened those children were?

Perhaps if you hadn't worked with sexual offenders for close to 30 years, you wouldn't see them where they didn't exist?





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