Parents lose custody of children for a month after innocent bathtime photos developed at Walmart

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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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reply to post by Char-Lee
 


i grew up in an orphanage, were some kids were molested, touched, and some, raped , by the adults sensed to care for them.

So tell me more.

The child protection services are a JOKE .
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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by AnonyWarp
reply to post by Char-Lee
 


i grew up in an orphanage, were some kids were molested, touched, and some, raped , by the adults sensed to care for them.

So tell me more.

The child protection services are a JOKE .
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They are not a joke.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper

Why do people take naked pictures of their children? Aren't pictures with their clothes on good enough?


Why shouldn't people take pictures of their children in the bath or while skinny dipping?

It is the people who read sexuality into such pictures who have the problem, not the parents who have taken innocent snaps.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Victims, you mean, the parents ?

If you're talkin about the parents, i can understand them.

But actually if you're talkin about the kids,they're not victims, sorry



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Creep, you're a fool & have probably had your bath time photo taken when you were younger.
I know that I myself have had bath time photos taken and i'm sure there are quite a few posters
here who have had them taken, if not taken some themselves yet, as well.

Bath time photos are in a tradition among most parents. There is nothing sexual about them,
so to see you and another trying to say they are sexual makes me wonder. Either you have
some issues yourself, or are not old enough to realized that.

In response to Char-lee, to blindly follow and claim what the walmart employee did and authorities
followed up with was correct is ignorant. You seem to fail to want to understand that these parents
had their kids taken away from them for one month as well as being placed on the sexual offenders
list. You really think that is the correct way of doing things? Making those parents guilty until
their innocence can be proven? I don't know what country you're from, but here in America you
are innocent until proven guilty. What the authorities did in this case is anything but correct.

To insinuate that the photos are of a sexual nature because the employee alerted authorities does
not make anymore sense either. The employee could have seen a clothed child "spreading for daddy",
as you put it, and alerted authorities just the same because she thought it was sexual. So i'm not sure
how you can make some of the statements that you are as you have not seen the photos just as
no one posting here have seen them.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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If sex is the thing you think about when you see a naked child then I can only say that you should seek professional help. It could lead to some real pain down the road if not caught early.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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Craziness.

When my daughter was born, my husband sent a birth announcement to all the family that had snapshots of her in various newborn activies- including taking a bath, and breastfeeding.

He's french, he didn't expect that all my relative would be upset and talking for years about the pornography he sent them of our daughter!

It made me realize our culture is pretty damn sick, if we see a naked baby and feel it is sexual.....



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Creep Thumper

Why do people take naked pictures of their children? Aren't pictures with their clothes on good enough?


Why shouldn't people take pictures of their children in the bath or while skinny dipping?

It is the people who read sexuality into such pictures who have the problem, not the parents who have taken innocent snaps.
You still haven't answered the question. Why? Aren't pictures with their clothes on good enough?



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by AnonyWarp
reply to post by Creep Thumper
 



Victims, you mean, the parents ?

If you're talkin about the parents, i can understand them.

But actually if you're talkin about the kids,they're not victims, sorry
Go back and read it again.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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ATTACK THE ARGUMENT NOT THE PERSON.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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I'm not, but you are. Why? Pictures of them with their clothes on isn't good enough?

if you're not seeing this as a sex/perversion issue, then why do clothes matter?

precious moments with kids can happen at any time. taking nude pictures of young children for non-sexual reasons has been going on for a very long time.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper

You still haven't answered the question. Why? Aren't pictures with their clothes on good enough?


Wow. Just wow.

I don't see pictures of kids without clothes on as sexual. Do you?



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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You should reformulate your question.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee
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The kids are not babies.

How do you know the kids did not play and enjoy the time away from their parents, how do you know how traumatizing it was.
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Because I've had a lot of experience in my life with children. I've seen how they act, I know how they can think(though not perfectly). I see how they handle things that happen to them. My nephew and nieces came from a very terrible mother, and my brother and mom are both raising them. They've been to MANY classes to help teach them how to help raise children who have experienced terrible things at a very young age. These sorts of events do have a strong impact on a child's psyche.

Now try for one moment, to imagine that you're 5 years old. You have to truly imagine. Not pretend you're 5, with the mind of an adult. You have to truly try to regain that young mindset. Now imagine a bunch of people you don't know, policemen and others in suits, they come to your house, and tell you that they're taking you away. Now imagine looking over at your mother, who loves you very much and wants to protect you. Now imagine watching her break down, cry, and raise a scene. Doesn't matter how much of a scene, because the thing children will pay attention to the most is their upset mother.

Now imagine being taken to a doctor. Sure, the doctor is nice, but now he wants to inspect areas that you're not comfortable with. It's cold, your mom and dad aren't near to protect you, so you're probably scared. Hell, it probably feels like you've been abducted by aliens, and having tests done on you.

Now imagine being away from your parents for a month. Even if the 4 and 5 year olds weren't that effected, there's no doubt in my mind that the 1-2 year old suffered. That's the most influential times in their lives.

If you really cared about the children, you would make sure to put them first. If the judge deemed the photos were bad, and that the children had to be removed, THEN you remove them. You don't do it first.
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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:27 PM
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I haven't once mentioned sex but practically everyone else is. Why is that?

I asked a couple of simple questions.

Why are people taking naked pictures of their children?

Aren't pictures of your children with their clothes on good enough?

And as to "why do clothes matter?" If you have to ask that then you're the one with the problem because clothes on children do matter.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Why are people taking naked pictures of their children?


Why wouldn't they? Even one reason?



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps

Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Why are people taking naked pictures of their children?


Why wouldn't they? Even one reason?
I'm trying to understand why it's necessary. I haven't asked a difficult question.

I did ask first.



posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper

I haven't once mentioned sex but practically everyone else is. Why is that?


Err... Because the justification for seizing the kids was suspected (but wrongly suspected) pedophilia.


Originally posted by Creep Thumper
And as to "why do clothes matter?" If you have to ask that then you're the one with the problem because clothes on children do matter.


Becuase it doesn't matter unless you view kids sexually. Why should parents who take pictures of their kids naked be assumed to be pedophiles until proven, $75,000 later, innocent?

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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper
I haven't once mentioned sex but practically everyone else is. Why is that?

I asked a couple of simple questions.

Why are people taking naked pictures of their children?

Aren't pictures of your children with their clothes on good enough?

And as to "why do clothes matter?" If you have to ask that then you're the one with the problem because clothes on children do matter.

in response to someone saying "why are you reading sexuality into this" you replied:


I'm not, but you are.

so if it isn't sexual, why do clothes matter. it's your turn to answer the question now. clothes matter, in your opinion, to prevent children as being used as sex objects (this is the only logical conclusion that can be reached from your statements) but you've said you don't see this as sexual, so why do clothes matter?


I'm trying to understand why it's necessary. I haven't asked a difficult question.

that's like asking why being cute is necessary. it isn't...but there's nothing wrong with it. indeed, "cute" is a word with positive connotations.
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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Because they wanna remember their children as they were? Is that good enough? Can you refute that?
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