Originally posted by Druscilla
No one (of any import) cares about invisible undetectable aliens on the other side of the Universe.
The whole Universe could be absolutely swimming with life.
All of that, however, is entirely worthless.
It's worthless until we can detect, observe, and confirm it.
There's strong probability enough that it exists within discoverable boundaries that we've spent Billions on a device that may help us ratify
Sure, there maybe might be possibly could be potentially probably somewhere, but, it's such an entirely ambiguous vaguery in speculating on some maybe
could be hopefully magical woo woo that such speculation, though fun and certainly fascinating for people of mediocre disposition and mediocre
facility that are constantly amazed at their own amazingness, it's entirely worthless information.
So what if there's aliens on the other side of the universe, or even right next door?
If we can't detect or observe them, they do us absolutely no good.
Undetectable aliens are worthless.
I agree with everything you have stated here Dru!
It's the endless question, Are we alone? Although the odds, the chances, the mathematical possibilities could cause one to shout loudly, "We can't be
alone!!!" The simple fact is we have no tangible proof to believe otherwise. That is just the simple truth. Hundreds of generations before us have
come and gone asking the same question, and as they have perished, none of them witnessed the presence of extraterrestial intelligent life forms.
And as you suggest, if they are out there, we certainly have not found them and it appears they have not found us in this vast universe. No one
really knows, it is fun to think, dream, speculate even faith that some other intelligent life form(s) are out there in abundance, but we simply have
no proof. That is not a narrow view, it is a wide-open eyed view of the facts
Originally posted by neoholographic
This question baffles me because the evidence is overwhelming that extraterrestrials exist...............Yet, you're jumping the gun by saying
extraterrestrials exist based on the overwhelming evidence????,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and I think silly explanation that life started on earth under miracle
like conditions and other planets have to have these exact same ingredients mixed in the exact same way in order to get life......................If
you have this narrow view of the Cosmos then you're just deluding yourself..................................I have been a proponent of Panspermia and
Directed Panspermia for years. I think life originates on comets, meteorites or is seeded by advanced civilizations.
Thanks neoholographic, for an interesting discussion. It is certainly one of, if not the biggest questions of mankind, "are we alone?". I simply
disagree with your statement on "overwhelming evidence". If that were true, we wouldn't still be asking the question, right?
As you state, it is "baffling"! As we continue to evolve, search, investigate, learn and experience new findings, new truths we will continue to
discover new and amazing things. However, IMHO, at this timeline, we have yet to find Intelligent extraterrestial life, nor have they found us. I just
don't see the 'evidence' you claim. It's ok to agree to disagree.
Regarding your thougths on the Panspermia theory. It is interesting, and certainly an acceptable alternative to the many of theories of how life began
here, on Earth. However, I again would disagree with your comment that it is "silly" to think miracle-like circumstances occured here on Earth where
life as we know it began. I don't discount Panspermia, just saying alternative views such as the much accepted 'miracle-like' conditions theory are
So, in conclusion, We really don't know if there is intelligent ET life out there. It's fun, hopeful, thought provoking to think about, but no
tangible, irreputable evidence to suggest otherwise, as of now. The future is unknown, So it would be foolish to say never. As far as how did life
originate here, on Earth? Whatever you believe, it just seems to be a miracle of some fate. I am not using that term in a religious context, just
the uncertainty of the nature of existence.
How did it ALL Happen? How? What? Why did ALL of this Universe, everything happen? Where did it come from? Simply from nothing? I propose that there
are many mysteries that we will never truly uncover or understand, that's when we need to stop arguing with each other, step back, look around and
marvel at the wonderous beauty of this world and our universe, and enjoy it!!!
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