Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Phoenix lights, has a nail in the coffin with this video, and I can't believe some people are still citing this as evidence, but this should convince
anybody. If this is not solved, I don't know what is:
Phoenix Lights Explained & Debunked
You shouldn't say that that video debunks the Phoenix Lights case. Most witnesses are not claiming that the lights from those flares are what they
saw. And they point out that the flare drop was conducted about an hour and a half after the large V-shaped object passed over. It only debunks
claims that flare videos/photos represent the Phoenix Lights rather than a diversion.
About the Washington National sightings of 1952, Major Keyhoe checked with the U.S. Weather Bureau after the claim of temperature inversion was made
and was told that, even though the area does sometimes have temperature inversions in summer, weather conditions on those particular dates precluded
What about a case hard to deny that is highly suggestive of Aliens? Well, the Westall case, with teachers as well as students among the 200 witnesses
who saw two disc-shaped craft at close range, one of which briefly touched down and left a physical trace, followed by appearance on the scene of a
goon squad that confiscated the camera and film from the teacher who is the only person known to have taken pictures during the sighting, at least
suggests the existence of manufactured disc-shaped craft with impressive maneuverability at low speeds, although there are several (albeit
far-fetched) explanations that don't involved aliens. It also highly suggests cover-up by a government claiming to release all its UFO files
(Australia), since documentation on this case and the confiscated photos are not among the materials made public so far.
That's one piece of good evidence, not proof, of flying saucers, not necessarily of aliens, just highly suggestive. How could there be elusive flying
saucers without aliens, demons, or time travelers?
I actually started a thread on that question, citing lots of crazy possibilities, many of which involve Earth origin of those amazing discs and do not
require FTL, including one scenario in which the Greys are android asteroid miners produced by a previous human civilization knocked back to the Stone
Age millennia ago by some disaster and such androids protect us from major asteroid strikes but not from comets, which move many times faster than
most near-Earth asteroids when passing by Earth approaching the Sun.
The origins of UFOs--some tongue-in-cheek hypotheses
The Coyne helicopter case is another that provides strong evidence of flying saucers but also behavior highly suggestive of aliens. Other strong
evidence that at least something is going on would be the Phoenix Lights, the Edwards AFB, Chicago O'Hare, and Washington National cases, the Belgium
wave, the Peruvian Air Force scramble and pursuit witnessed in daylight by 1,800 soldiers standing in formation, the two famous Ohio police chases
involving numerous officers plus civilian witnesses, the Stephanville case with its radar confirmation in addition to numerous witnesses, and the
Holland, Michigan case.
If there are alien visitors operating those flying saucers, they are likely from one of the 49 sunlike stars other than our Sun within 51 light-years
of Earth, but scientists have pointed out that dimmer stars could support "Goldilocks zones," effectively adding hundreds of candidates within 51
light-years. A dimmer star also means that a planet in the habitable zone would be close enough to have sufficient tidal force to maintain an
atmosphere without need for a large moon, thus removing one seemingly good argument that makes Earth appear uniquely suited to development of life
thanks to an extremely rare stroke of luck. Note that the stars that cannot support life are those NASA calls "flare stars," meaning that they
sometimes have solar flares that reach the habitable zone, killing any visiting lifeforms and not allowing native life to develop.
edit on 8-4-2013 by xpoq47 because: (no reason given)