Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Ask me a question about how we do things. I'll answer it as long as it doesn't interfere with security.

"As long as it doesn't interfere with security."
THAT is the self-important, exaggerated sense of power that betrays the guard who feels inadequate with the authority given. There is nothing about the operation of a jail or detention facility that cannot be described without jeopardizing "security."

What a joke!

An inmate is delivered. The inmate is sequestered, identified, searched, inventoried, showered and de-loused; and placed into inmate clothing. If sober, the inmate is placed in General Population. If injured or intoxicated, the inmate is segregated until stabilized/sober.

There is no secret to basic operations, and certainly nothing that would "interfere with security" if revealed. I've seen this attitude so many times,it is frightening; such guards as keep this ideation are the most likely to preserve "security" at the expense of civil rights and transparency.

"I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you." Sound familiar?
Pathetic.

I am being judged based on what I do rather than who I am. What does that say about you?

Originally posted by Creep Thumper
I am being judged based on what I do rather than who I am. What does that say about you?

You are judged based on what you said:

Before you feel all bad for Monsieur Convict know that they intentionally do things to themselves to exacerbate their conditions. He had a plan and stuck to it and benefited from it financially.

(I'm not even going to point out the self-revelation of your pseudonym: "Creep Thumper." Your choice says all we need to know about how you see yourself. Do your "clients" know this from your words, or your actions?)

This reveals more than any speculation about "who I am." Your inability to recognize this simple fact speaks volumes on its own.

You are so full of yourself it is sad. I have several family members serving in various law enforcement roles. Some of my closest friends are Judges and County officals, legislators, State Troopers, deputy sheriffs, police officers and corrections officials. None of them would tolerate attitudes and behavior diminishing basic rights and fair treatment.

What, please advise, was "Monsieur Convict" convicted of (according to the thread and link)?

He "stuck to" his plan for 22 months? In isolation? When did he come up with this plan; upon arrest, after a week, 6 months, a year?

His family and attorney filed suit for him, a FEDERAL judge allowd the suit to proceed, a FEDERAL jury granted him judgment 5 years after the fact, and you're pissed because "he benefitted from it financially?"

As someone who so proudly represents "the law" and "justice," what part of the man's claim did you not understand or agree with? That he demanded legal remedies for unlawful violation of his rights? That he defied idiots in authority? That the N. M. criminal Justice system and county corrections were shown to be ignorant, indifferent to civil rights, totally lacking in common sense, and worse?

Inmates, especially in segregation, routinely self-harm by refusing medical and dental care and by neglecting their hygiene.

Please show us where in the thread and link there is any evidence that this is true of this man! Your generalization, and facile move from unsupported anecdote (and false general accusations) to this specific case reveals your prejudice and inappropriate stereotyping -- precisely the attitude and actions that resulted in this miscarriage of "justice."

You should know that any inmate suspected of "self-harm" should be given immediate attention and either treated for her psychosis, or subject to disciplinary hearing/action. (I suppose 22 months is your idea of immediate attention.)

Their goal is financial compensation, time outside of their cell and trips to the hospital, which is their way of taking a vacation from the consequences of their actions (jail/prison).

If this over-simplified generalization was anywhere close to the truth, then our jails would be empty, hospitals full, and prisoners walking out with bags of cash. This is so utterly false, it is laughable.
And, for pre-trial detainess, why should "time outside of their cells" be considered a bad thing?

There should be no room in our criminal justice system for people so are so indifferent to basic human and legal rights as to mock them, and falsely denigrate those who are rewarded for proving such cavaler attitudes and indecent behavior.

Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Before you feel all bad for Monsieur Convict know that they intentionally do things to themselves to exacerbate their conditions. He had a plan and stuck to it and benefited from it financially.

"The world is full of fools and faint hearts; and yet everyone has courage enough to bear the misfortunes, and wisdom enough to manage the affairs, of his neighbor." ~Benjamin Franklin

Managing the affairs of other people, is the defining principle...of the unprincipled. Or, as they are better known..."Creep Thumpers.".