To know the Chi energy....

So, you are curious about the Chi energy. Conceptually, you can google the meanings. What about on the existential, experiential level? What does it mean and how does it feel to know the Chi energy? Here is an excerpt from one of the William Bodri's blogs:

"On the road of spiritual cultivation, you must first free yourself from identifying with the body and thereby dissolve one layer of false thoughts, or mental attachments, so that the mind then experiences a state of empty clarity. In other words, you must first empty out or detach from the form skandha. At this level of achievement your chi channels become open and the warm yang chi is often felt moving through the channel orbits of the body."

www.meditationexpert.com...

Don't just conceptualize the form skandha as just your body. This false form encompasses racial, ethnic, and gender prejudices and stereotypes imposed by the world around you. The American society, sadly, is built on this false form consciousness to the extreme. More or less, institutionalized for generations. Once you can penetrate the cause of this false forms. Your sufferings would cease. You no longer cling to them. Here, the Chi energy would rise (Kundalini energy rising) like a dragon crawling on your spin. Or a coiled serpent crawling out to the crown of your head, in Hinduism. If you are young, the Chi energy becomes HOT. If you are much older with a bit more developed consciousness, the energy becomes warm. For the first time, every inch of your body is tinkling and awakened. For the first time, you know who you really are. You would become to see even the color of this Chi energy as bluish and whitish, either seeing it with your eyes opened or closed. In this case, your third eye has been opened. Many people called the experience as blissful. Well, I don't like the word blissful since it has certain hippie connotation.

This sounds like a whole bunch of spiritual mumbo jumbo.

I'm reminded of Nakor from The Raymond E. Fiest books based on the world of Midkemia.

Nakor was a very powerful magician however he never believed in all the trappings of ceremonies and rituals.
He said that it's all energy. Stuff which is all around us all the time. And all we need to figure out is how to tap into this stuff to use it. Just stuff.

If Chi is real then there's a way to tap into it without all that spiritual nonsense.

Originally posted by grey580
This sounds like a whole bunch of spiritual mumbo jumbo.

I'm reminded of Nakor from The Raymond E. Fiest books based on the world of Midkemia.

Nakor was a very powerful magician however he never believed in all the trappings of ceremonies and rituals.
He said that it's all energy. Stuff which is all around us all the time. And all we need to figure out is how to tap into this stuff to use it. Just stuff.

If Chi is real then there's a way to tap into it without all that spiritual nonsense.

Hahahaha...it was real to me when I felt it some 20 years ago... I went through the same process. Read the blog. He was quoting from his own studies and maybe even from his experiences.

I skimmed the page.
Talk about a bunch of hooey.

He seems to like the word penetration cuz it's used alot. lol

IMO "IF" that energy that many claims exists within us. And it's blocked. You really don't need all that meditation to get to it. You just need to figure out how to get at it without meditation and silly named states and whatnot.

Originally posted by grey580
I skimmed the page.
Talk about a bunch of hooey.

He seems to like the word penetration cuz it's used alot. lol

IMO "IF" that energy that many claims exists within us. And it's blocked. You really don't need all that meditation to get to it. You just need to figure out how to get at it without meditation and silly named states and whatnot.

Sigh......I am sure you should know that just because one's ignorance of the Chi energy, it does not mean it is not real. It just means you don't know it. That's it. That's the truth. Anyway, I never really debate on the issues of enlightenment. When it happens, you know. If it isn't happening, you don't know it. That's it. That's a lot of things happening in the world (on the social political level, let alone the universe) that we aren't aware off. It does not mean they don't exist. This would be my last post. I always find William Bodri's writings very insightful and to the point.

Originally posted by ChiForce
Sigh......I am sure you should know that just because one's ignorance of the Chi energy, it does not mean it is not real. It just means you don't know it. That's it. That's the truth. Anyway, I never really debate on the issues of enlightenment. When it happens, you know. If it isn't happening, you don't know it. That's it. That's a lot of things happening in the world (on the social political level, let alone the universe) that we aren't aware off. It does not mean they don't exist. This would be my last post. I always find William Bodri's writings very insightful and to the point.

That's not what you should take away from the comments at all.
I'm not discounting that it exists.

Simply that energy is just that energy. And that if we really do have that within us. It should be attainable. Without meditation or clearing your mind or whatever other way you used to reach it.

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Then maybe you should just wait for science to give you a pill or an implant or something. In the meantime, just play video games and guzzle energy drinks and surf the net for porn and watch reality shows and eat fast food.

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I understand where you are coming from and am in fact in agreement with you.

When it comes to this type of phenomena I feel it is best to simply learn all you can and put into practice that which works for you. For many it will be meditation as it allows one to quiet the mind and focus which is difficult for most existing in an environment that is constantly bombarded by distractions and other unnecessary signals.

You and I, though the same, are different aspects of this same thing and as such we must fine tune our methods to suit our individual aspect. If you do not prefer the "spiritual mumbo jumbo," as you say, then do not view it as such.

I myself, for example, do not choose to view it as something spiritual or magical, but more as something that is beyond physical, something that is not directly filtered through to our perception of reality. Something not physical does not negate it's existence.

Originally posted by BlueMule
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Then maybe you should just wait for science to give you a pill or an implant or something.

edit on 7-3-2013 by BlueMule because: (no reason given)

That's just another way of reaching that stage.

The real question is. If the energy is always within us. Why is it blocked?

Why do we have to do something different or special in order to interact with it?

That nags me. What are we missing?

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Some people will never meditate, never hear about chakras, the third eye, etc. and be able "summon" Qi as easily as breathing air.

You can try a shortcut: sit on your bed in the half-lotus position and perform this mudra. Instead of placing this mudra in front of the heart, place it in front of the navel. Close you eyes, throw aside all preconceptions and judgments and direct your attention on the body (this way, the mind will not wander) without focusing on any parts... Maintain this posture during at least two hours without moving. If all goes well, you'll perceive it.