EU fines Microsoft $731 million for broken promise, warns others

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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
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Your IQ of 142 should instantly tell you that buying a branded PC and then erasing the pre-installed Windows operating system means that you have to pay for the operating system which you never intended to use. And after my understanding that is what the poster is complaining about.


THANK YOU. FINALLY.

An elderly relative of mine wanted a new computer, but didn't want microsoft. In the end he had to buy a branded PC and he got me to switch the hard drive and install Ubuntu. There is no way he could have done that on his own, he was surprised there were no valves inside the computer. The option of building your own or going with a barebones kit is fine for you and me because we know what we are doing. Not everybody can do it or has the confidence to believe they could.




posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
reply to post by trollz
 


Your IQ of 142 should instantly tell you that buying a branded PC and then erasing the pre-installed Windows operating system means that you have to pay for the operating system which you never intended to use. And after my understanding that is what the poster is complaining about.


Actually, his(or her) post had nothing to do with paying extra for any particular OS. The point of it was his perceived inability to purchase something without Microsoft, not that he has to pay extra for Microsoft.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by trollz

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
reply to post by trollz
 


Your IQ of 142 should instantly tell you that buying a branded PC and then erasing the pre-installed Windows operating system means that you have to pay for the operating system which you never intended to use. And after my understanding that is what the poster is complaining about.


Actually, his(or her) post had nothing to do with paying extra for any particular OS. The point of it was his perceived inability to purchase something without Microsoft, not that he has to pay extra for Microsoft.


Actually that was a major element of my gripes. For someone with a supposedly high IQ, you are pretty dull. You should have easily been able to work out that I would not be too pleased paying for useless (to me) software. There aren't many people who enjoy paying for unwanted things.
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by MildCat

Originally posted by trollz

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
reply to post by trollz
 


Your IQ of 142 should instantly tell you that buying a branded PC and then erasing the pre-installed Windows operating system means that you have to pay for the operating system which you never intended to use. And after my understanding that is what the poster is complaining about.


Actually, his(or her) post had nothing to do with paying extra for any particular OS. The point of it was his perceived inability to purchase something without Microsoft, not that he has to pay extra for Microsoft.


Actually that was a major element of my gripes. For someone with a supposedly high IQ, you are pretty dull. You should have easily been able to work out that I would not be too pleased paying for useless (to me) software. There aren't many people who enjoy paying for unwanted things.
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That wasn't what you conveyed through the post I replied to. Not wanting to pay for useless software is common sense, nobody needed to figure that part out.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 04:55 AM
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Im aware of linex, But you wouldn't touch it unless you knew programming. What i was saying others have pointed out. I would rather not have to go to a store and buy a mac, Because 1. i can't use linex. But i think an easier solution would be to buy barebones and install an older version of windows. It would suck if they made a patch for the other OS but since they are practically being sued i doubt that will happen.

Either way bill gates is working with the dark forces. So he is a very evil man. Despite him donating a bunch of flow ( probably because he was laundering money i can see him making fake websites and viruses to target bank accounts he does have an armada of hackers) Just a theory.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by CrypticSouthpaw
Im aware of linex, But you wouldn't touch it unless you knew programming. What i was saying others have pointed out. I would rather not have to go to a store and buy a mac, Because 1. i can't use linex. But i think an easier solution would be to buy barebones and install an older version of windows. It would suck if they made a patch for the other OS but since they are practically being sued i doubt that will happen.

Either way bill gates is working with the dark forces. So he is a very evil man. Despite him donating a bunch of flow ( probably because he was laundering money i can see him making fake websites and viruses to target bank accounts he does have an armada of hackers) Just a theory.


I'm using a distribution of Linux called AntiX, it was a cakewalk to set up the USB key and set the BIOS to boot from USB as a first priority. Getting used to linux is not so hard, you just have to get used to a different GUI and sometimes odd behaviour but I would say 2 days is enough to get to grips with a user friendly distro.


CX

posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 05:44 AM
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Fined for broken promises.....so when do you think this will be introduced to politicians and breaking policy promises?

CX.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by CX
Fined for broken promises.....so when do you think this will be introduced to politicians and breaking policy promises?

CX.


When snowballs take over hell



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 06:00 AM
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When they are forced to lol. but other than that nothing.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:11 AM
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Bill gates isnt running Microsoft any more.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:38 AM
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So he cashed out eh? sounds like what the pope did



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:45 AM
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He hasn't worked there for 5 years now. He's been running Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which is the largest transparently operated charitable foundation in the world. Spending billions on helping rid the poorer countries disease with his own money.

As of 2007, Bill and Melinda Gates were the second-most generous philanthropists in America, having given over $28 billion to charity.

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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by CrypticSouthpaw
So he cashed out eh? sounds like what the pope did


To be fair, if I learned my company was gonna release windows 8, I'd have #ed off pretty lively myself.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by MildCat
Just the browser? What about the fact that it is nearly impossible to buy a computer with no OS installed on it whatsoever? I would love to be able to go to a shop, buy a great PC with nothing to do with Microsoft installed on it, but you cant.


You can...if you build it yourself.

I've never bought an 'off the shelf PC'.

Not trying to be funny or have a go at you, but a 10 year old with a screwdriver could build a PC from separates.

It's easier than lego..and cheaper.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by MysterX

Originally posted by MildCat
Just the browser? What about the fact that it is nearly impossible to buy a computer with no OS installed on it whatsoever? I would love to be able to go to a shop, buy a great PC with nothing to do with Microsoft installed on it, but you cant.


You can...if you build it yourself.

I've never bought an 'off the shelf PC'.

Not trying to be funny or have a go at you, but a 10 year old with a screwdriver could build a PC from separates.

It's easier than lego..and cheaper.


Yes they could, so can I, and so can many people I know, but not all of us want to do so. I certainly can't be bothered with it, not when I could buy a ready made one. Nobody should have to jump through such hoops to escape Microsofts deathgrip on the industry.

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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by PhoenixOD
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He hasn't worked there for 5 years now. He's been running Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which is the largest transparently operated charitable foundation in the world. Spending billions on helping rid the poorer countries disease with his own money.

As of 2007, Bill and Melinda Gates were the second-most generous philanthropists in America, having given over $28 billion to charity.

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Yes, but it's mostly concentrated on vaccination programmes, and curiously has in Gates' own words a goal of population reduction of at least 10% through vaccination programmes.

The money would have been better spent on infrastructure, sex and general education, food and getting rid of the warlords that run riot over the people, and have a nasty habbit of hacking them to death with macetes.

Still..pharma is doing well out of it, so it's not all bad news...



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by MildCat

That involves buying a dell and I will never make that mistake again. The fact is, in England it is nearly impossible to buy a computer with no operating system directly from a shop. Sure you can build your own, but who has time for that?

My point is, the choice should be there and it shouldn't be limited to online purchases or homebuilds.
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Just how many cars can you buy from car shows rooms that dont come with engines? If you want something custom you have to go to a specialist dealer or build it yourself.

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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by MildCat

Originally posted by MysterX

Originally posted by MildCat
Just the browser? What about the fact that it is nearly impossible to buy a computer with no OS installed on it whatsoever? I would love to be able to go to a shop, buy a great PC with nothing to do with Microsoft installed on it, but you cant.


You can...if you build it yourself.

I've never bought an 'off the shelf PC'.

Not trying to be funny or have a go at you, but a 10 year old with a screwdriver could build a PC from separates.

It's easier than lego..and cheaper.


Yes they could, so can I, and so can many people I know, but not all of us want to do so. I certainly can't be bothered with it, not when I could buy a ready made one. Nobody should have to jump through such hoops to escape Microsofts deathgrip on the industry.

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Pardon?

If someone is pissed off that they are finding it almost impossible to buy a ready built machine without an installed OS, how is sitting at a bench for an hour building your own going to be too much trouble?

I've spent longer sitting on the toilet mate, i don't like sitting on the toilet, but i don't like guts ache...if you don't like a preinstalled OS, it's a very easy route out of that problem..literally built one from start to finish (not including OS installation) in 30 minutes...it really is that much of an easy way out of being fed up with Microsoft.

As far as IE goes...don't like it, don't use it. I loved Netscape, back in the old days, but find Firefox is much better than IE these days.

Don't know why MS don't just remove it completely and offer it as a free add on.


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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:01 AM
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I give up. I can't make a simple point without being hounded by nerds with scewdrivers and computer componants coming out of every orafice.
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by MysterX

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
reply to post by CrypticSouthpaw
 


He hasn't worked there for 5 years now. He's been running Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which is the largest transparently operated charitable foundation in the world. Spending billions on helping rid the poorer countries disease with his own money.

As of 2007, Bill and Melinda Gates were the second-most generous philanthropists in America, having given over $28 billion to charity.

edit on 7-3-2013 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)


Yes, but it's mostly concentrated on vaccination programmes, and curiously has in Gates' own words a goal of population reduction of at least 10% through vaccination programmes.

The money would have been better spent on infrastructure, sex and general education, food and getting rid of the warlords that run riot over the people, and have a nasty habbit of hacking them to death with macetes.

Still..pharma is doing well out of it, so it's not all bad news...


Yes what he said was at a TED conference full of intelligent people who actually understood what he meant by this. In very poor 3rd world countries (for example Africa) people tend to have more children because the infant mortality is very high as they dont have good vaccination programs. This means that populations can get quite large even though the death rate is also quite large. By having a better vaccination program (provided by him for free) they hope to lower the rate of population increase because more children will survive and parents dont have to have as many children.


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