Japan tsunami survivors turn to exorcists for help- Many claim they are seeing ghosts of victims, page 3


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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 10:09 AM by MajorKarma
This is an interesting story and not at all surprising. First, our physical life takes place here within a physical/dense dimension, while our spirits exist in a higher/much higher frequency/dimension. If this does not make sense, just know that not all that we are exists in these bodies; our spirits are manifesting a portion of what we really are through these bodies.

If you do not believe this, go watch Hummingbirds for a time and you will notice that these tiny creatures think, feel and have individual personalities and quirks far beyond what could possibly be contained in their small brains. This is because like us, they too are manifesting their spirit into this physical reality/world, just like we are, just like every creature. All that lives is far more than what we see and experience in this dense, physical plane. The fact that our consciousness is not aware of all that we are and have been is a far more complex subject I am not going to even begin to try to explain.

Sudden, out of phase/untimely deaths that happen outside the natural order of life and death for each individual causes a number of problems/confusions for the spirit. At minimum, the spirit will tend to hang around because it is not its time yet to move on to its next phase. Man exists on this planet outside the nature order of things because none of us/our spirits were created on and with this planet, we all came here/were brought here from elsewhere. This too is a complex reality I am not going to attempt to explain what I understand of it.

However, I can predict this. Those who were killed, for example, during this Tsunami in Japan will be hanging around until the time of their natural deaths arrive and then they will move on. Some will hang around afterwards because they will simply get lost and be stubborn about clinging to their existence in this higher/non-physical frequency/dimension.

We are surrounded by living beings/creatures that exist in higher frequencies/dimensions...they swim in the ether we all exist in and from which physical matter is created.
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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 11:23 AM by stirling
Originally posted by blackz28
Originally posted by Phage
Four words.
PTSD.

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one word GHOSTS , cause alot of people woke up dead & are a little confused



There are far too many places where such untimely deaths have left a trace of the individuals of some kind......

A fort in Canada where the figures of soldiers of a bygone era are seen manning the parapets etc....
The many battle sites of many forgotten wars.....
Perhaps it would be an interesting bit of research to visit many sites like this, and query the inhabitants surrepticiously as possible, about any paranormal experiences thay may have encountered there since?
There is a theory that these "ghosts" are trapped, in a sort of time bubble of their own creation.....
Not that they may be aware of creating such, but by their simple disbelief in their own demise, an inability to accept this somehow..........
Intent is the secret of the Shamans....It is the force by which they refine their powers.....
Perhaps a fusion of these two thoughts, intent and the self created time bubble, are the cause of ghostly apparitions.
Communication, or Mediumship is another subject entirely.....and could be more deeply and scientifically investigated in my view.....
Though the communications could be from other sources.....interdimensional, even satanic or demonic....

Consciousness is like eyesight......
Our eyesight and our hearing etc, are stuck within set parameters......
Why not then our ability to percieve reality?
Think about it....a dog has 700 times better sense of smell than we.......
A bat can hear well enough to fly by it....
Their worlds are in those respects far richer than our own......
Cats have always been associated with seeing things unpercieved by us.......
And all animals have that attunment that FORWARNS of impending crises related to our natural world....

Humans are well enough endowed with a smattering of senses and a large capacity for calculation coupled with a self awareness that separates us from our environment.
But that very separation cuts us off from accepting natural phenomena or states which do not conform to our
own human concepts.

Nevertheless such things may, and do well exist whether we accept them or reject them, they continue to plague humanity, because we have not yet fully turned our intent upon them, or we do not not allow for their existance......
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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 01:15 PM by Phage
reply to post by FlyersFan




The Japanese people were VERY OPEN to the afterlife and to spooks.

Yes. They are.
And traumatic stress could indeed manifest itself as hallucinations drawing on that deep cultural influence.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 01:35 PM by Phage
reply to post by TrueAmerican


So what would you say then, Phage? They ALL had PTSD?

I prefer not to argue from ignorance.
Produce the data. Then we'll talk.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:16 PM by mclarenmp4
Originally posted by Phage
reply to
post by TrueAmerican


So what would you say then, Phage? They ALL had PTSD?

I prefer not to argue from ignorance.
Produce the data. Then we'll talk.

No you prefer to argue from arrogance.

No data regarding the paranormal will ever satisfy you, so stop the trolling. And this is not your thread so I think TrueAmerican is entitled to talk to whoever he wants without satisfying your need for "data".
Go find some weather threads to satisfy your ego.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:24 PM by Phage
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And this is not your thread so I think TrueAmerican is entitled to talk to whoever he wants without satisfying your need for "data".

He is entitled to talk to who ever he wants to, yes. And he was talking to me and I answered him.



Go find some weather threads to satisfy your ego.

Please don't tell me what to do.
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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:57 PM by templar knight
I have been doing some searches on the net and this is not a new story: Article from Feb 2012 - National Paranormal Association which sources itself from the Daily Telegraph. Similar article from Japan Today in Feb 2012 reporting the same thing (now withdrawn - but you can get the gist from the comments).

I was hoping in this day and age to finds some personal blogs but no such luck. The date is interesting as the article ran 1 year after the disaster and seems to be re-running now 2 years after the disaster.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:59 PM by rickymouse
reply to post by TrueAmerican



I noticed that black text too, what the heck is causing that. Oh Oh, maybe they didn't like that I told on them


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:59 PM by Phage
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Or someone stuck a strange UBB code or character in their post.
It started here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Science works. No ghosts.
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