Dumbing down of America vs a "super secret weapon", page 1


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Topic started on 6-3-2013 @ 09:11 PM by CIAGypsy
How do you create a complacent society? Through generations of carefully crafted psychological attack...

Chapter 2 from Bertrand Russell’s The Impact of Science on Society
(Columbia U. Press, 1951)]:

This subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship. Anaxagoras maintained that snow is black, but no one believed him. The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray. Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician's paradise.


The United States education system is no longer about creating citizens who are inventive, educated, or competitive. Most schools are more concerned with controlling student behavior than encouraging or teaching critical thinking and ingenuity. Any google search will showcase the undeniable truth of this fact. On an educational level, Americans can hardly compete with even 3rd world countries.... A sad sad reality....


United States’ rankings, as reported by the National Center for Educational Statistics:

Reading
*In 2000, the U.S. was 15th among 28 OECD countries and 15th of 32 total nations.
*In 2003, 15th among 30 OECD countries and 18th among 41 overall.
*In 2006, U.S. scores were not tabulated because of a printing error in the test books.
*In 2009, tied for 12th among 34 OECD countries and was 15th among 65 total nations.

Science
*In 2000, the U.S. was 14th among the 28 OECD countries and 14th of 32 total nations.
*In 2003, 19th among 30 OECD countries and 22nd among 41 overall.
*In 2006, 21st among 30 OECD countries and 27th among 57 overall.
*In 2009, 17th among 34 OECD countries and 23rd among 65 overall.

Math
*In 2000, the U.S was 18th among 28 OECD countries and 19th of 32 total nations.
*In 2003, 24th among 30 OECD countries and 27th among 41 overall.
*In 2006, 25th among 30 OECD countries and 35th among 57 overall.
*In 2009, 25th among 34 OECD countries and 31st among 65 overall.


Now....there are many who will say "hey, looks like we are in the middle of the pack....not the bottom!" And to that I would say "And were you satisfied that President George W. Bush was also a 'C' level student?" This is the US...we are supposed to be a leader, a super-power.... And yet, our future generations struggle to maintain AVERAGE...

So how does the US continue to maintain an edge technologically? Take a look at this interview with Michio Kaku and you might understand the "super secret weapon" which is quickly being turned against us.




reply posted on 6-3-2013 @ 09:25 PM by MamaJ
reply to post by CIAGypsy


Its sad...

The Scientific establishment in the US does seem to be crashing. I have hope though.

We are lazy... spoiled... and have lost our integrity. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Why we pull others from other countries and not strive to create our own first is beyond me. The US should be striving to create geniuses. We would rather dig for Gold, I suppose.

The education system here is in need, this is for sure. Here in my city, it's awesome. Some though, do not have the capability to be in a good school district and they are truly few and far between. That to me is troublesome, we could strive for better.

I push my kids to be great in Science and Math. We need children who are pushed to their limits and not filled with excuses as to why they are not top of their class.

We also need to know our kids and be involved.... it makes a world of difference.

I digress.... going to sleepy town and dream about it. lol


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 07:57 AM by CIAGypsy
reply to post by Murgatroid


You call him a "NWO stooge" and yet he is telling you that the country is failing it's future generations....


Hmmmmmmmmm, interesting perspective but I guess it's your delu.... Urrr, view.

:-)


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 08:05 AM by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by CIAGypsy


It is kinda weird when you think about things from the way they "used" to be....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

People were smarter SOMEHOW (:puz "back in the day" compared to now.....

This stuff really makes you think about some things.....


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 08:14 AM by sulaw
reply to post by CIAGypsy


I've heard of this somewhere before but I'm not sure where... Very disturbing, "NWO Stooge" or not he brings out some very enlightening points that can't be denied. SnF


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 08:25 AM by rickymouse
Well, in reality snow reflects most wavelengths of light so it could be construed as black if you wanted. What we see is what is reflected though and our consensus of the time is what makes reality.

Yes, Science does dumb down people. All we need to enjoy life is a comfortable temperature, clean air and water, food, and something to keep us busy. Science is trying to sell us something most of us don't really need most times. I liked the moon made out of cheese better. How many million taxpayer bucks has been spent proving it is not around the world. Science is obsessed with space travel, if they were that obsessed with fixing the environment it would be better. People don't see that we have been conditioned to give science a lot of money for research that we don't need. Sciences created the super bug, alchemy gone bad. Some would argue it was greed that created these problems but science is a tool of greed as is it a tool of conservation.

Science can be used for good and for bad. It is most often used wrong though, creating more problems than it is worth. Dumbing down is not caused by the researchers themselves, they only supply the tools. The tools are used many times for other than they were intended so people can reinforce their ego or obtain profit and control. Real science is impartial and is informative but should not take sides. Maybe I just live in a dreamworld though, I guess I put science on a pedestal when I was young where it couldn't exist.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 11:48 AM by CIAGypsy
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by CIAGypsy


It is kinda weird when you think about things from the way they "used" to be....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

People were smarter SOMEHOW (:puz "back in the day" compared to now.....

This stuff really makes you think about some things.....


As "anti-conspiracy" as I typically am, I have to agree with you.... It's no secret that I do NOT believe there is some secret "elite" cabal trying to enslave the masses....

However, I do believe that there has been a "change" in the effective capacity of our generations....this "change" may be genetic or not. As a society, we seem less intellectually capable than previous generations but it extends to more than just that. We are more overweight, less healthy....less of a "threat" to our enemies (both real and imagined).

Once we accept this premise (even if it is just for argument's sake), the question becomes "why?" What is the agenda or is there one? Are we being engineered to be dumber, fatter, and more complacent (i.e. conspiracy)? Or is this just the natural evolutionary path that our "success" or "societal ideology" has taken us (i.e. no conspiracy)?

In regards to education, I believe it has been engineered. I believe that "junk science" has been utilized to push "better teaching methods" to get industry & general society to adopt these changes. What did the quote from Russell say in my OP? "The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." That starts by removing the ability to think critically, downplaying logic as an "eccentricity," and changing the role of education to focus on behavior (or "indoctrination" as someone else put it...) instead of facts, knowledge, and history.
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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 12:07 PM by CIAGypsy
reply to post by TerryMcGuire


I completely agree with you. "Dumbing down" has become a CULTURE.... It is further reinforced in the educational system.

I have pushed and pushed my kids to excel in school, especially in math and science. Then I had a rather "enlightening" experience with my oldest son about 5 years ago. He is a very very gifted individual. Could easily be a genius and musical prodigy. But he REFUSES to take "gifted" classes despite my clear disapproval. His logic is that taking "gifted" classes does nothing more for him than give him extra work. He sees it as a "punishment for being smart" and not something that is special or that he should be proud of. This is a sociological problem... The school, his friends, and society around him has taught him through experience that the "reward" for working hard is just that...you work and end up with nothing really to show for it. That no one cares about your "achievements" because they are more concerned about making everyone feel good about themselves and pointing out one student's "achievements" only serves to make others feel bad. This is such upside down thinking from how I was raised that it is just baffling to me. Yet, we see it all over society....

It baffles me that people find more in common with Snooki, Paris Hilton, and Kim Kardashian as "role models" than people who have really ACCOMPLISHED something that is worthy of being admired for....
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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 01:53 PM by 2manyquestions
Most (but not all) schools in the U.S. are abysmal. When I lived in Czechoslovakia and moved to Germany, the German math class was about four to five months behind on math lessons compared to Czechoslovakia (It surprised me back then, but now I realize that the Commies wanted everyone to become "the best" so they could parade them around the world as products of Socialism. If it hadn't been for the brain-washing about mother Russia being the best country in the whole wide world, I'd consider it one of the only positive traits of Communism). When I moved to the U.S., the math class was about three years behind what Germany was teaching its kids at that age level. I was bored out of my mind, because I already knew how to work those problems long ago. Kids struggled to read their own language when asked to read out loud. Private schools seem to have a lot more strict rules. They actually teach kids to think and expect more from them. Public (Government-run) schools act more like babysitters than educators. They don't have high expectations, they let things slide, they let failing students pass for the sake of sparing them from becoming social rejects, etc. These kids get dumber by the minute. American public schools are a disgrace.

Now to add my $0.2. The reason the Government doesn't give a $%&^ about whether American students remain competitive with the rest of the world is because they know it's easier to control the uneducated. Brain-washing them in this way is the best path to full control. When you have millions of people believing everything you say, the few who see the truth don't stand a chance against the mob. They become the Government's most powerful weapon.
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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:43 PM by Murgatroid
reply to post by CIAGypsy

Originally posted by CIAGypsy
You call him a "NWO stooge" and yet he is telling you that the country is failing it's future generations....

Rat poison is 99% harmless, it's the 1% that kills you...

MSM is rat poison.

This why I completely stopped watching TV many years ago.

Michio Kaku would NOT be promoted by the MSM if he wasn't a part of their agenda.

Rat poison looks, tastes, and smells like the real thing.

This is the reason WHY it is actually the most powerful type of mind control and a very masterful piece of brainwashing...

The fact that you "do NOT believe there is some secret "elite" cabal trying to enslave the masses...." says that you may have eaten a little too much of the rat poison and it's blinding you to reality.

Michio Kaku has lots of sugar coated scientific "discoveries" and perceptive information to make that rat poison taste so good.

pure and utter illuminati BS new age propaganda for the sheeple

This has always been the modus operandi of the Deceiver... Satan's recipe: ? Take 10% truth, 20% probability, 20% possibility and mix with 50% lies... Line a scrying bowl with some snake oil and pour in mixture. Bake over long period of time (preferably generations), and serve to gullable public with some humor and logic. Make sure the container for the 10% truth that was added is hidden or destroyed (preferably)...and enjoy the resulting constipation of the unwary...

Exposing Lies, Myths and Deception
He's a "science" shill for the NWO, always ready to spin the story whatever way the CIA, or the Pentagon, or the NSA, or the NWO spin meisters at MIT or Harvard, or Columbia, or John Hopkins, or Tavistock want him to spin it. At the time, I guesstimated that Kaku's interview was part of a propaganda package to lay the groundwork for what the government would claim was a runaway 'pandemic' scenario which would emulate the 1918 kill off. Source
He says that global government is progress. One-world government means "Type 1 civilization". And all who oppose it are "terrorists".

Michio Kaku = Illuminati propaganda agent
'Michio goes cuckoo and says you are a terrorist if you are against the NWO. He claims that the NWO is Type 1 attainment on the Kardashev scale. He also spews the false "alien gospel" to set the public up for the coming fake disclosure of the grigori as " Type 2 greys". Type 3 is obviously God and His angels, but what will the illuminati say they are?

Michio Kaku: People Who Oppose NWO Are 'Terrorists'
Michio Kaku – New World Order Facilitator

The science establishment is like the medical model – sterilized white suits with unchallengeable answers sent down to us from sacred Mount Know-It-All.

Until they’re disproven. Time and again.

The indoctrination is complete, the wars are underway, gobs of drugs were sold and people sickened, and whatever else they’re pushing is being consumed en masse…

You know this guy has to be the voice of the PTBs with all the press he gets. He’s set up as such an unchallengeable authority.

He may imply or claim “innocence” of any complicity, but I’ll bet he knows quite well which side his bread is buttered on. As many of them do.

Kaku’s job, like that of so many others, is to soften us up and prepare us to accept this technological takeover of mankind. Already they’re busy “mastering” nature with genetic tampering, geoengineering, and messing with electromagnetic weaponry. These programs are already in full swing, however cloaked.

Kaku is being used as the scientific white coat to help people swallow these pills and even happily enslave themselves to this Orwellian takeover.

As smart as this guy is, he definitely knows who’s pulling his strings, and he doesn’t mind the benefits. Unfortunately, much of the scientific community is blackmailed into towing the party line or they’ll lose their research grants or places in the scientific hierarchy or University system.

Still, I have no respect for anyone who cows to that, for whatever reason. It’s because people won’t stand up that humanity is becoming a full-on slave race.

These NWO pushers are everywhere. And they love the cloak of their bastardized “science” to supposedly validate their programs. After all, isn’t eugenics a science? Didn’t supposed scientists and dentists and University PhDs in white lab coats recommend we fluoridate the water supply, and host of other insanities?

www.zengardner.com...



reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 02:53 PM by FissionSurplus
I think this emphasis on following rules without questioning, learning facts vs. critical thinking, etc., has been going on for a long time.

I remember a time when I was 7 years old, in the second grade. Los Angeles area elementary school. The year was 1968. The assignment was to color in a picture of a flower growing out of the ground. It was a color-by-number thing. If you got the colors right, you got a star on the board next to your name.

I understood the assignment, but balked at the idea that I had to color it exactly as I was directed to, so I got creative and colored the stem and leaves green first, then colored over that with some yellow and blended it in with a pencil eraser, so the wax from the crayons was smooth instead of microscopically lumpy.

I was terribly proud of myself until the teacher called me up to her desk and asked me if I understood the directions. I said I did. She said, "Then why did you color the stem and leaves this funny green-yellow color?" I told her that I wanted it to look more springlike, and I thought it was prettier that way.

She started at me for a bit and said, "I cannot give you a star on the board because you failed to follow the directions exactly as you were told to do."

I felt tears welling up in my eyes which I tried hard to hide so that I wouldn't be called a cry-baby. My name was the only one without a star, and the kids called me retard. I felt so confused, and my pride turned to shame.

Lesson learned? Just do exactly as you are told, do not stand out, do not be creative.

No wonder our culture is the way it is. The creativity and ingenuity of children is squashed at such an early age. I made sure I fostered creativity and questioning things with my own children. I may have been forced to be dumbed down, but at least my offspring were given a different world view and the freedom to create art and poetry without restriction or censure. It was the least I could do to give The Man a giant middle finger of distain.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 03:05 PM by Exxon
reply to post by MamaJ


Ah see, the only genius that is truly appreciated in America is that of a business nature. There are plenty of "smart" businessmen, ie. the kind that are willing to take advantage of other people in the name of monetary gain. Lack of compassion for other peoples needs is the only genius that is bred in America today.


reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 08:52 PM by CIAGypsy
reply to post by 2manyquestions


Everything you said is exactly what I was trying to convey in my OP. Glad you see the same pattern...
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