reply to post by Kali74
I am in the solar business, so I can add some detail to this thread.
1. When you say that India and China are leaving the US in their dust, that is not exactly true. Germany and Italy are, but the US and China are
pretty similar in installed capacity, and India is far behind but closing quickly.
2. The countries that are achieving "grid-parity" in this article are all very high solar insolation countries, in other words they get ALOTof
3. The grid parity that they are talking about is parity between the COST of solar power with the RETAIL price of electricity. That is why they
clarify that 'for companies that use alot of their own power' solar makes sense without any subsidy.
4. The parity arguments DO include the cost of idle spinning fossil fuel generators. In Germany, the power authorities have found that the cost of
power goes DOWN on sunny days due to the effect of solar taking the peak off...
5. In almost all countries that have developed a solar industry through Feed-In-Tariff programs, solar is now actually at parity, but the banksters
are hiding the fact. I am NOT saying they are intentionally hiding it, but their basic policies hide it none-the-less. The issue is the amortization
period. We KNOW all decent solar panels will last at least 40 years, and there is not a single reason to believe they will not last a lot longer.
But all solar installations are amortized over 20 years at most. If you extend your levellized cost of power calculations out to 40 years, things
change radically. Anyone smart enough to invest in solar panels right now will get a much better rate of return than investing in gold OVER 40
6. The storage issue is just now being addressed by the reall renewable experts. The simplest solutions will be a modernization of a German company
called Sunventions. It is much easier, (and cheaper) to produce heat from the sun that electricity ffom the sun, and simple,cheap, stirling engines
can convert that heat toelectricity. the German gov't has just announced a Feed-In-Tariff program specifically to promote storage solutions.
Although the details are trade secrets, a number of companies and organizations are working hard of very interesting stirling engine designs that will
be out in time for the fossil fuel crash in 2016.
7. The real answer to full time power is biodigesters. Germany gets more power from these than from solar....
Fof those of you that have a positive outlook, the problem isn't a technical one. My company produces power at a levellized cost of .06 cents per
kWH, and we have a new tech all drawn up that is a concentrating, co-generation system using all simple parts and processes that is coming in a 0.03
cents per kWH.
The issue remains a political and emotional one. It is clear that the people will not support a real move over to solart till the reality of fossil
fuel depletion is too obvious to ignore. The reason why India and China are going great guns in solar is this:\
Here is the annual amount of oil available for export from 2005 to 2011:
2005. 2006. 2007. 2008. 2009. 2010. 2011.
47398 47405 46860 47070 44960 45355 45965
So the amount of oil that has been available for export has declined steadily from 2005 to 2011 from 47,398 million barrels per day to 45,965 milllion
barrels per day.
The US has only seem a small effect of retail prices of gas and diesel because your economy has crashed, due to the small increase in fuel prices that
you have seen, and total consumption of gas and diesel is down almost 2 million barrels a day.
Anyone who looks at the production figures, well drilling numbers, and costs of fracking can see that although fracking is here to stay, despite is
horrible environmental costs, total US production will resume its relentless decline in about four years.