Hugo Chavez - Where'd He Supposedly Get the 2 Billion $$ In Personal Wealth?, page 4

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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 12:00 PM by FlyersFan

Originally posted by dragnik
He was my president, I was almost 15 when he died, and I would do anything for him if he asked me for,

You would do ANYTHING for a politician if he asked? Really?
I wouldn't give myself totally to any politician like that.

BTW .. I've been to Yugoslavia. To Serbia. To Bosnia. Beautiful countryside.
Especially where the mountains meet the water.
When I was there in 1991, the TVs in the house I was staying in had old
reruns of Tito playing ...

reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 12:01 PM by HumAnnunaki

When are people going to wake up and smell the roses?

YouTube Link

There is so0o0o0oo much dis~information!

American citizens (and supporters) need to wake up because
it's almost too late for your constitutional rights.

reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 12:27 PM by whatzshaken

its an American report on a socialist whom they detested because of the countries vast wealth in oil. Its another case of the pot calling the kettel black. With chavez out of the way the American lead coup like in 2002 will have their wheels set in motion, just like they have done in the middle east and around the world when a country has a natural resource that they want, so lets go get it and disguise it as "democracy. because its for the people

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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 03:33 PM by votan

reply to post by FlyersFan

wow defaming someone who was not pro the USA

I never saw this coming.. this is refreshing and new.

Guess what!! our politicians are worse, but that is Okay because they wear the red white and blue.

Newflash there were plenty of rich in venezuela that used to live high off the hog at teh expense of everyone else. And when chavez took over they hated him for it.. and guess what?? many of those people wielded the power of the media and as the big bad dictator that chavez was he let them exist.

Chavez was not a saint by a long shot. Except too many of you people only take the USA media spin put on him.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

The agenda to defame chavez is to crush people who like him and believe in him.

To be honest i don't give a flying puck. If they open their doors to the USA I will just go there and make some bank.

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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 04:45 PM by WeRpeons

Sounds like embezzling to me. You can never trust a dictator or any politician for that matter. I wonder how much he was worth before he took office?

Says he was helping the poor with one hand and then was raiding the cookie jar with the other hand. The guy was a magician!

reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 05:53 PM by tide88

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
When are people going to wake up and smell the roses?

YouTube Link

There is so0o0o0oo much dis~information!

American citizens (and supporters) need to wake up because
it's almost too late for your constitutional rights.

Wow, shocking, more disinformation Youtube videos posted on this site. Let me ask you a question. Why does that video take Rumsfeld comments out of context. If you read the whole speech, you would know that 2.3 trillion isn't "missing".

You can read the whole speech here and an very good explanation.

2.3 trillion never was stolen

reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 07:18 PM by FyreByrd

reply to post by FlyersFan

I'd consider the souce - one - Criminal Justice International Associates (CJIA), a risk assessment and global analysis firm in Miami. Both (dare I say) all of this flows back to them. There are in Miami, with a good likelyhood of Right Cuban connects so I'd not believe it at all.

I'd include any data on the Castros with this as well. Risk assesment????? Global Analysis????? Sounds pretty coverish to be legit - another right wing sound bite machine sprewing lies.

Facts can be verified by multiple sources.

Find other - reputable sources FlyersFan.

reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 07:24 PM by FyreByrd

Originally posted by FlyersFan

The evidence is there. Just as it was there for Arafat. There won't be swiss bank account numbers given out, because they don't want to do that sort of thing.

".....because 'they' don't want to o that sort of thing." ????

Just who is THEY? You seem to be grasping here. It's okay to make a bad call. Believe what you want but don't expect the rest of us to believe it because you do.

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reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 07:47 PM by FyreByrd

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Well .. when the leader of the country (Chavez) NATIONALIZES the media and takes it over .. and freedom of speech and freedom of the press is gone ... that sort of thing tends to happen. No one can ask questions. No one can print or report the information.

I looked up the rankings from Reporter's Without Borders. Venezuela ranked 117th out of 179 for the 2011 - 2012 data period with two up arrows showing the trend to more openness.

BTW - They rank the USA for the same period 47th.

Take it for what it's worth.

I remember a long (several actually) talk with a committed Socialist/Communist about the issue of dissent. I found the practise aberrant but what I was told made sense in the context of a 'revolution' or 'paradigm change'.

That in order to keep reactionaries - 'left behinds' in conspiracy speek and the like from fermenting a counter revolution while the new regime was still weak it was necessary to control the media (think how controled MSM is in the US for a scary thought or two). After the new regime was more firmly in place the restraints could be lifted and dissent would act as it's supposed to by helping the new paradim grow and mature. The media restrants were likened to protecting an infant.

The fact that the media in Venezula is becoming less controled means that the status-quo of the new system is establishing itself.

reply posted on 7-3-2013 @ 08:48 PM by NoJoker13

reply to post by FlyersFan

Um oil.... Do I need to say more? They are the 4th leading distributor to the US.

2nd line.

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reply posted on 8-3-2013 @ 12:04 AM by Taggart

Originally posted by Kang69
reply to post by FlyersFan

What, as opposed to building an Empire and averaging a war every 20 years? Did Venezuela go to Vietnam and kill millions of people? No they did not. Iraq? Afghanistan? Korea? The list goes on and on.

I'm guessing you hold the same judgement for all world leaders? Or just the ones that you "think" are bad? I love Orwells double think, and this thread explains it clearly. If you honestly think Chavez was a worse leader than any of the recent US presidents or say, Prime Ministers of Israel, you are sadly mistaken.

For Christakes think for yourself! It's like watching a pair of hands in somebody's head constantly massaging their brain telling them not to trust their own judgement. Everything is upside down. Chavez who opposed Global Bankster rule is called a dictator meanwhile we have EO's here going out the whazzo in the US. Ever heard of NDAA? NDRP? Patriot Act? CISPA? Any of those ring a bell? All of this just stinks.

Please add my beloved British Empire to this.

reply posted on 8-3-2013 @ 10:21 AM by Kyo560

i wouldn't be surprised this is true, a vast source of black gold no big deal if you skim a little off the top, but i could be wrong but doesn't the monarchs of the middle east do this as well?? the sauds,U.A.E, Qatar etc....hell even Vladimir Putin he's got a vast wealth as well.

reply posted on 8-3-2013 @ 10:30 AM by FlyersFan

Originally posted by votan
wow defaming someone who was not pro the USA

More like - wow posting information about how BILLIONS has gone missing from the oil profits in Venezuela and how Chavez was in charge of them ... and posting about how Chavez shut down freedom of the press so it can't be reported about ....

Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

That seems to be the mantra of a lot of Chavez fans ....

reply posted on 8-3-2013 @ 10:33 AM by FlyersFan

Originally posted by FyreByrd

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The evidence is there. Just as it was there for Arafat. There won't be swiss bank account numbers given out, because they don't want to do that sort of thing.

".....because 'they' don't want to o that sort of thing." ????
Just who is THEY? You seem to be grasping here.

'THEY" as in Swiss Banks .. and no 'grasping' going on here. That's exactly how the swiss banks work. That's common knowledge. No matter who has the accounts, they do not divulge the information that the accounts are there or how much is in them. The Swiss banks don't care where the money comes from. They just want the money.

reply posted on 8-3-2013 @ 10:35 AM by FlyersFan

Originally posted by NoJoker13
Um oil.... Do I need to say more? They are the 4th leading distributor to the US.

There ya' go. It's like a drug to these dictators/totalitarians/capitalist piggies.
All are pretty much the same when it comes to being put in a position of power and
not having to answer to anyone.

reply posted on 9-3-2013 @ 04:10 AM by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by whatzshaken
its an American report on a socialist whom they detested because of the countries vast wealth in oil. Its another case of the pot calling the kettel black. With chavez out of the way the American lead coup like in 2002 will have their wheels set in motion, just like they have done in the middle east and around the world when a country has a natural resource that they want, so lets go get it and disguise it as "democracy. because its for the people
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And you think your leadership is not on board with the NAU? Always people have to make America out to be the bad buy, but the bad guys are everywhere in every country. I mean just look at the attendance roster for Bilderberg meetings every year.

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reply posted on 9-3-2013 @ 10:17 AM by HumAnnunaki

reply to post by tide88

From the LINK you posted.

TextJanuary 11, 2001
Senator Byrd: A recent article in the Los Angeles Times, written by a retired vice admiral and a civilian employee in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, accused the Department of Defense of being unable to account for the funds that Congress appropriates to it. The authors wrote, and I quote in part, quote, "The Pentagon's books are in such utter disarray that no one knows what America's military actually owns or spends." ...
That audit report found that out of $7.6 trillion in department-level accounting interest, 2.3 trillion in entries either did not contain adequate documentation or were improperly reconciled or were made to force buyer and seller data to agree. This DoD-IG report is very disturbing....

No where in the link you posted does it say the money has been returned

My original message was of the American MSM accusing Chavez of 2 Billion when their own
Government is the equivalent of much worse without including "bailouts, illegal wars and terrorist
atrocities against it's own people".

I just find this hard to understand.