Hugo Chavez: The War On Demcracy

Today , Yet another death of a great man and leader, this is a sad day for Venezuela and the whole world... Rest in peace.

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has died, his vice-president has announced.

Mr Chavez had not appeared in public since he returned to Venezuela last month after cancer treatment in Cuba.

An emotional Nicolas Maduro made the announcement on Tuesday evening, flanked by leading Venezuelan political and military leaders.

Earlier, he said the 58-year-old Venezuelan leader had a new, severe respiratory infection and had entered "his most difficult hours".

Venezuela's Hugo Chavez dead at 58

Documentary

Now, I will like to share a great documentary made by John Pilger. Well worth the watch.

'The War On Democracy' (2007) was John Pilger's first for cinema. It explores the current and past relationship of Washington with Latin American countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile.

Using archive footage sourced by Michael Moore's archivist Carl Deal, the film shows how serial US intervention, overt and covert, has toppled a series of legitimate governments in the Latin American region since the 1950s. The democratically elected Chilean government of Salvador Allende, for example, was ousted by a US backed coup in 1973 and replaced by the military dictatorship of General Pinochet. Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras and El Salvador have all been invaded by the United States.

John Pilger interviews several ex-CIA agents who took part in secret campaigns against democratic countries in the region. ...
Johnpilger.com

[color=grey]Duration: 1:34:01

R.I.P. dude I only just got to know about you and then you die
Hope the dude or dudette who follows you follows your ideas.

Some Americans only like democracy when it is convenient for them and sactioned by the PTB, I should include my country in that group as well as the rest of the commonwealth and other western governments.

Glad there are many (American friends included) on here who have broken free of the brainwashing we all undergo throughout our lives.

The world turned on this man when he nationalized privately owned utilities. I personally had buddies working there when they made the cell towers property of the state.

He gave heating oil to many American families in the tune of billions! A great man for the people of Venezuela but an enemy of the most powerful in the USA.

RIP Hugo Chavez. The world is a lesser place without you! It would seem that if you mess with America you either go down for rape, die of ass cancer or get your entire family blown up!

what a great man, I am not sad that he died for he died a FREE MAN.

He made the Venezuelan people proud and independent once again.

He gave the country and the people what belongs to them.

He stood strong against the imperialists and zionists trying to choke this planets people to submission.

He did a splendid job on his behalf and I will remember him for that!

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Yah, it's pretty tough for the West to pile on Chavez as a dictator when their own BFFs are places like China and Saudi Arabia. But the (right) wingnuts will be here to do just that pretty soon. Meanwhile, Hugo, RIP.

Hugo Chavez was a hero of mine.

Against all odds, he protected his people from the evilest men in the world, survived numerous assassination attempts, slander against his character, was overthrown by international corporations, was then reinstated as president after this corporate coup when millions of his citizens protested to get him back.

Lets say that again, MILLIONS of his people protested to get him back!

He called George Bush the Devil, told oil tycoons to go # themselves and created a bastion of economic freedom in traditionally dictatorial South America. He built an economic powerhouse through social democracy (from nothing!) and his gift to us is his country, a shining example of what can be accomplished through true democracy (fight for your right!) and soft socialist economic policies.

Viva Hugo!

I am an American and I would have trusted this guy more than anyone one from Congress, the Senate, the House or the President.Especially more than the Supreme Court. Hell, I would have trusted him more than anyone in Washington DC and many of the States that wore a business suit. "It is by the fruit of their works that you will know them"......Hugo and the Gaddafi both treated their people right and American propaganda and news BIMBOS convinced people otherwise...letting us pound our chest in glory as we won the game...the game against people who were innocent. I know why the United States wanted to kill them. The US is working for those International Bankers and Cuba, Venezuela and Iran are the only ones , I think, that do not allow International Rothschild or Rockefeller Banking in their country. Man are those old fart IB going to Hell. Even if you do not believe in Hell...I think you would agree that they are going there anyway. Better not find me in Hell face to face with one. There is no DHS in Hell to stop anyone from making a deposit from their @sses.....and charging a high interest rate! The chance to get back at these International Banking families in Hell will be more valuable than Gold will be 10 years from now. We have no way to do this now, but after we die, if I go to Heaven, I will ask GOD for a vacation, and take it in Hell, so that I can personally bring back a souvenir from their @sses .....(licking chops)

Notice the date he dies March 03 (March numerical) + 06 (Day) = 9....... 2013 (year) = 6............9+6=15 ...1+5 = 6.
We have 9 ...a Freemason number, and 6, an evil number representing the Beast.


BTW, check out this link..CNN showing his in the presence of all of our ...so called....enemies.

Hugo with all of our current enemies that we are wantng to attack

RIP Hugo. Regardless of the propaganda put forth about you by the ruling oligarchy in the west, there were/are plenty who know what you did. Here's hoping your people carry on the good fight and maybe someday it will rub off on the rest of the world.

so is he actually really honestly truly for real dead this time?

i could have sworn he died last week...and he also died two or three months ago..

just trying to get clarification on this..

Wow
Reading the written Responses, it is a real surprise to me.
I feel like I was alone on this site, Like a Silent Cheerleader for Chavez. I related to a lot of what he said, and did, and a Lot of times on this Site, That was the wrong side of the Arguement to be on.
So , RIP, and I feel a tad better about the other members on this site.
A Silver Lining for Sure.

Hi, I felt compelled to register here in order to reply to this very thread.

Would you guys explain to me why Hugo Chavez is a great leader?

I live in Doral,FL. A suburb in Miami-Dade county. Doral is very Venezuelan based. Many of them moved to Doral back in 2003 and since then, the Venezuelans are the majority.

They all left due to Chavez. They all had to leave and transfer their business here. They despise this man. I have talks with them about him Chavez. I even brought up that gas is 6 cents a gallon in Venezuela. They explained to me that even though the gas of gasoline is low, the cost of a comfortable living is high. A Quiksilver shirt sells for 120 dollars in Venezuelan when the worth of the shirt in The States is merely 12 dollars. Needless to say, Doral was packed with happy Venezuelans celebrating his death and wishing Venezuelans a speedy recovery to what Hugo Chavez has done to it.

I'm just curious to know why Hugo Chavez is a great leader because if its because he's against American ideals then that's not really a fair thing to say. He made millions of families migrate out of their own lands. He corrupted elections all the time and even had tanks in case the Venezuelan people would retaliate. I just don't see that as traits of a great leader.

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So let me see. A whole lot of US puppets on a string had to leave or face the music back home because they helped the US to rape their country. Of course they all get let in by immigration without a problem.

Possibly you may be able to come up with a reason why they would celebrate while rational thinking people mourn the loss of a great leader.

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Originally posted by Daedalus
so is he actually really honestly truly for real dead this time?

i could have sworn he died last week...and he also died two or three months ago..

just trying to get clarification on this..

well the other reports where typically from blogs and other less than credible sources. This time pretty much every major credible source has reported it.

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Your not alone amigo !

Rest in Peace Señor Hugo chavez ( El gran comandante ,President of the less fortunados !!)

reply to post by mekhanics


I hope that the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela gets a other Charismatic Leader like El Comandante Hugo Chavez.
Good luck to you Venezuelan people !!

Originally posted by 33055
Hi, I felt compelled to register here in order to reply to this very thread.

Would you guys explain to me why Hugo Chavez is a great leader?

I live in Doral,FL. A suburb in Miami-Dade county. Doral is very Venezuelan based. Many of them moved to Doral back in 2003 and since then, the Venezuelans are the majority.

They all left due to Chavez. They all had to leave and transfer their business here. They despise this man. I have talks with them about him Chavez. I even brought up that gas is 6 cents a gallon in Venezuela. They explained to me that even though the gas of gasoline is low, the cost of a comfortable living is high. A Quiksilver shirt sells for 120 dollars in Venezuelan when the worth of the shirt in The States is merely 12 dollars. Needless to say, Doral was packed with happy Venezuelans celebrating his death and wishing Venezuelans a speedy recovery to what Hugo Chavez has done to it.

I'm just curious to know why Hugo Chavez is a great leader because if its because he's against American ideals then that's not really a fair thing to say. He made millions of families migrate out of their own lands. He corrupted elections all the time and even had tanks in case the Venezuelan people would retaliate. I just don't see that as traits of a great leader.

edit on 6-3-2013 by 33055 because: g.e

I'd say the reality probably sits somewhere in the middle. I'd never call him great. I get the feeling many calling him great here would have problems with some of his more heavy handed way of doing things, since they live in constant fear of our government doing the same to us. Seems weird that they would call him great. I get the feeling they have tunnel vision on his views they like.

I doubt he was made of pure evil like many would have us believe though. Some of it is most defiantly the product of the propaganda machine. He speaks out against us we make everyone hate him.

I'm not surprised the Venezuelans you talked to hate him either. Typically when there is a revolution people who oppose the winner and leave, and never move on from their view of him as a terrible person. I'm sure there are plenty who see things his way and genuinely love him as well.

I can't speak on this issue to much though, I haven't really dug into to Venezuela enough to begin to separate fact from fiction.

This is quite sad for the people of Venezuela. May they continue to be an inspirational democracy and resist the controlling ptb. During the Bush years, it occurred to me that Americans may be able to seek political asylum there if things got too weird. It just seemed like Chavez would be cool with it.

Originally posted by 33055
They all left due to Chavez. They all had to leave and transfer their business here. They despise this man. I have talks with them about him Chavez. I even brought up that gas is 6 cents a gallon in Venezuela. They explained to me that even though the gas of gasoline is low, the cost of a comfortable living is high. A Quiksilver shirt sells for 120 dollars in Venezuelan when the worth of the shirt in The States is merely 12 dollars. Needless to say, Doral was packed with happy Venezuelans celebrating his death and wishing Venezuelans a speedy recovery to what Hugo Chavez has done to it.

I will try to explain this the best way possible but remember life is not black and white and people are complicated and diverse creatures.

Those people who fled the country were owners of land/business/factory/good paying job etc. They owned things which were nationalized or changed when Chavez reformed the country. Some people did not like that, some wanted to chase 'the american dream' and wanted to work very hard and wanted lots of material possessions and that is completely ok, i am glad those Venezuelans were allowed to stay in america to chase their dreams. It is understandable why they don't like Chavez.

On the other hand, the majority of population doesn't care as much about lots of possessions and working your a$$ off all your life, they just want to have enough food/shelter/money and barely enough working hours so that they can achieve 'enough' for themselves. Unfortunately, lot of them has been mislead into believing they not only need such a lifestyle but want it as well - because if they didn't believe it and if they didn't work very hard, people on the top would not be on top anymore.

Then comes the big recession where it gets clear 'the american dream' is just an illusion and things you have worked hard for gets taken away from you in an instant. You lose your business, home and stuff. It's the same thing that Chavez has done in Venezuela, right??

Well, the BIG difference is when they take from you in USA they are the only ones who profit from your land, possessions and years of hard work and leave you with nothing.
When they take from you in Venezuela they try and distribute your wealth to other citizens who don't have as much but you are also taken care for.

Neither economic system is perfect, but one is for people and the other for profit. I like people more and i hope there will come a time when somehow things can work out for all of us.


ps. the shirt you are talking about is irrelevant information, it's because of import fees (and some juju crazy reasons noone understands) just like a pair of uggs costs 250$ in europe while in america you pay only 80 bucks.