Anti-government extremist groups increasing, say experts

I have to agree with Beezer. I disagree with this administration and the overall course our nation has taken for the last several years. That does not mean I hate my country...that does not mean I am a terrible threat. It means I disagree with them. I think many things we have done should not have been done or should have been handled differently. I "supposedly" have freedom of speech so I can say "I disagree with you"

I disagree with more and more laws and regulations...it sometimes seems they create these things just to give the "herds" the idea they are doing something for their paycheck...unnecessary and generally hurts more than they help.

You cannot legislate good will toward man...you cannot legislate morality...so stop tightening the vice in an attempt to do what cannot be done...it just makes it worse.

You cannot tax and spend your way to prosperity...proven time and time again...

There is only one path back to prosperity but most people either dread it or fear it....but it's time to embrace it. Freedom.

Originally posted by sealing
Black President with a funny name
+ Conservative AM radio's scare agenda.

My theory is that if the policies were identical but Obama was white
and named Tripp Bristol he would be the most popular president ever.

Obama Care? Simply becomes a patriotic "taking care of our own Act ".
Etc etc

Your theory is whack!
The color of a mans skin does not make turning my Republic into a Socialist nation okay.
You want health care? go buy it. turn in your flat screen and cable tv, turn off the data plan on the smart phone and use the money to buy health care insurance.
Govt needs to stop trying to coddle the people and just manage the nation.
Regardless of who is in the office. Black or White.
It really irritates me when people play the race card every stinking time someone disagrees with Obama, its the single most pathetic defense used.

Because these "extremist groups" are such a huge problem, and have been for years. Please.

Oh, but they are growing to be sure, so they must be a threat!

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We are a threat, to the usurpers of this nation! It is time for the States to confiscate these FEMA camps, internment compounds, reeducation centers or whatever you wish to call them, built within our borders, to be used against Federal authorities who trespass on our soil to enforce their laws and codes! It is HIGH time we the people of America let not only the UN know that they have NO authority or power here, but also those against the people within our own nation! UNITED WE STAND!

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The number of American "patriot" extremist groups has reached a record level, according to a new study, and experts are warning of a wave of anti-government violence.

Our government, by, for and of the people, has fostered this with no misunderstanding of what it was they were doing.

Most Americans desperately want to believe in their leadership but... find that at almost every turn, that same leadership is betraying them and their trust in what this nation was supposed to stand for.

To end this unrestful paranoia, the US government should immediately cease all efforts to undercut the US Constitution and work to restore all that has been lost over the last two decades to the globalist agenda.

Short of that, the government (and the media) has only itself to blame and will be held responsible... in this life or the next, for the results.

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Totally agree.

I knew they where going to inject race into this.

With all due respect to the experts.....

It isn't the Anti-Government Extremist Groups that have increased.

It's the....

Anti-People Government Organizations that have just put a bumble bee in our collective bonnets and gotten people to do what people generally do. React poorly to flaming morons and being treated like the enemy by those we all supposedly elected.

When the Government stops finding new ways to define us as the enemy? Perhaps otherwise well mannered folks will stop finding themselves with new reasons to see them that way.

What's REALLY funny is that these "extremist" "Anti-government" groups want to re-establish an uncorrupted government...

how "Anti-"government of them...

Anti-government extremist groups?

More like rational thinking groups.

Here's the basics of what's going on, our country being a Democratic Republic is rated on the Amnesty International's Political Terror Scale. The day before 9-11-2001 our PTS rating was a 5 out of 5 meaning we, the US, could be considered to be the free amongst the free. By 2004 Patriot Act 1 and soon after Patriot Act II started the birth of the neopolitical state where the individual's rights were now being placed behind the much more important survival of the state, thus, a neopolitcal state was born as the neocons and neoliberals started to become concerned with safety instead of liberty. Categorically when a country like the US starts to drop on the PTS from a 5 of 5 to a 4 of 5 by 2004 and then a 3.5 by 2008 it spells certain trouble. Remember back when Obama took office there was a DHS report that cited the most prevalent threat to US security was in fact Americans. To be exact returned vets, constitutionalists, right wing religious militia, and left wing groups backing environmental or animal rights issues. OK, like I said when countries like the US drop from a 4 of 5 or 5 of 5 generally there a ton of home grown terrorism like that we witnessed in OKC Murrah Building bombing in retaliation to Ruby Ridge and Waco back in the early 1990's. Is it possible that we've crossed the 3 of 5 mark regarding the PTS? Here's the worst part, when a country like the US experiences this reaction to fear by its leaders and the people push back by using terrorism the leaders have to go to a solid 2 of 5 to regain the control of the country, meaning, Marshal Law. This runs along with the now known fact of Federal Agencies stock piling bullets, ordering Military transport, and now the US AG's opinion that drone strikes are now legal against Americans on US territory. This started under Bush but has grown like a Italian on roids under Obama, and yet, there are going to be his followers that back him to their own grave.

Originally posted by luciddream
Its a see saw effect.

People who are against current administration will be the haters, finding every nook and cranny, trying to throw dirt, exaggeration.

When their "team" wins, they will stay quite but this time the losing team will be up in arms, trying to make the new administration look bad.

Rinse and repeat until end of the two party system.

edit on 3/5/2013 by luciddream because: (no reason given)

this is completely incorrect. it isn't about the right being angry because a democrat is president, it's about EVERY politician being corrupt.

your opinion is exactly what they want everyone to think, that it's just republicans pissed off that a black democratic president was elected. it isn't about race or party affiliation, it's about the government doing away with due process and assassinating americans without a trial or evidence, then not even having to tell anyone. it's about the constitution being thrown out the window.

This is not surprising. When the government starts crapping on the Constitution, the very document that provides us with our freedoms, there are going to be many people who notice and know that something must eventually be done. That point has not arrived, but there are groups who will act when that time does arrive. There are many of us who lay out our ideas and some even plans regarding a revolutionary scenario, but I can guarantee that the larger groups who are already prepared to take up arms against a government that is out of control are not saying anything about their ideas. They likely are not even on the government's radar.

The fuse is lit!
Department of Justice says White House can use 'lethal force' on American citizens on US soil
rt.com...

NDAA 2013: Congress approves domestic deceptive propaganda
rt.com...

Soon we will see state ballot initiatives in many states! People will voice their distrust with their ballot. The Feds are already in motion to sue states to nullify the new legal marijuana laws will try to use the same tactic to negate the lawful state movements.

This could push some states to mobilize the national guard and even expel Federal Employees.

If you disapprove of what the Federal Government has become then read the rules for your state and start to gather signatures. State Ballot Initiates will allow the people of your state to speak loudly! Keep buying ammo and weapons, but take up the pen first in this fight!

0. Ban the use of domestic propaganda in your state!
1. Nullify the Patriot act and NDAA in your state!
2. Nullify any Federal Gun Control measures in your state!
3. Ban the use of drones etc.. in your state!
4. Make it a state jail felony for Federal Employees to spy without warrant etc..

Hold the Federal Government accountable to the Constitution of this land!

A challenge to the law can mean that the Federal Government has lost its legitimacy and should be disarmed! In which case it is time for a better system that is more accountable to the people. I think the same representative Democracy we have but one that represents with ballots in place of representatives. In place of congressional zones we can have ballot zones. Presidential signing powers should also be done away with!

Liberty or death!

Number Of Anti-Government Groups At An All Time Record High!

Fox News seemingly in support of the study, Michael Medved shares the opposing view of it's ideology not criminals.

"I don't think you should criminalize decent." "To say that it's a rising tide of danger and to site a thousand groups. I mean talking about some of the groups that he sites is really problematic to me."

LOL I love how they are always trying to vilify conspiracy theorists by referring to them as 'extremists' and 'hate groups'.

I question everything, but have absolutely no intent of harming anybody. I would really object to being called an extremist.

The Southern Poverty Law Center (such a catchy name... those fascist people do come up with some doosies, don't they?) is nothing but a left wing extremist group of elitist rich lawyers who think you're an idiot.

Now, granted, a good deal of the population is stupid, but the SPLC preys on them because they're weak minded nit wits.

The SPLC is an extremist hate group of the worst kind.

DDoS the SPLC.

The mistake the left is making is this.

We breed warriors.

We've been fighting since before this nation was born.

Now, we don't breed savages. We breed men and women who stand their ground, and are just fine and happy letting live and let live. We want nothing but to be left alone. Just let us feed our families and achieve our dreams as we see fit.

But no. The wealthy liberal elite look at us as peasants too stupid to know what's good for us, so they think they need to step in and tell us how we should live.

This is a terrible misstep on their part. We aren't your garden variety third world country where that nonsense works. We'd prefer to just raise our crops, ride our fencelines, snuggle up with our cow dogs at the end of the day in front of a fire and read a good book for the remainder of our lives.

But if you press us. We will drop the axe. And note to you hipster liberals who think you know better than that rancher? We will end you and plow you under and won't lose a moment's sleep over it.

You're poking the eagle. You're going to regret it.

We all will.

Originally posted by SilentKoala
DDoS the SPLC.

Heh. I know just the man for the job. Thanks for the idea. Tick Tock.

Originally posted by sealing
Black President with a funny name
+ Conservative AM radio's scare agenda.

My theory is that if the policies were identical but Obama was white
and named Tripp Bristol he would be the most popular president ever.

Obama Care? Simply becomes a patriotic "taking care of our own Act ".
Etc etc

Not true, we had the same thing happening under the Clinton presidency. I remember a lot of militia folks and a certain person named McVeigh.