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reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 02:19 PM by butcherguy
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At the rate that I am going....

I will never be able to afford retirement.



reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 02:21 PM by NONPOINT21
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Most likely even if you hit retirement age, you would have to take on a part time job to make ends meet. Go to any mall or fast food restaurant in the morning and see all the senior citizens working. Breaks my heart. Two problems, the government doesn't want to pay SS which it doesn't have and your employer doesn't want to let you get to that age either. If your in your late 50's early 60's now you'll be okay but for 30's to 40's it will be terrible.

that's what I hate most about the system. It's set up so that you work your whole life for them, living on their terms and rules and by the time you get out of system your body is so broken down from years of stress, money, and health issues that you have no time to enjoy the rest of your life if you have the money to do so.

Family is the only thing in this life worth anything and sadly most of us don't even cherish that. I know my family (not immediate) is very distant. All but 1 of my grandparents are gone and the 1 left has virtually no money.

My Dad retires in 4 years, he could've retired 15 years ago but after working for a company Corning for 21 years they sold their company to 3M but before they did they dropped the stock to less than $2 a share so he lost everything overnight.

I don't think it will be possible for me to retire no matter what I do, even with me putting 10% into a 401k with 3% company match and company pension. At any time the stock market can crash and since I'm not privy to the inside info I won't know where to put my money before the next collapse. Sigh



reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 04:29 PM by Gazrok
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if they are trying to kill us slowly with all the chem trails they are spreading and chloride they are putting in water and all the other crap they are doing




You do realize of course, that if ANY of that were true...then THEY would also be doing the same thing to THEIR wives, their kids, their parents, and themselves (as they breathe the same air, drink the same water, etc.), right? Now it just sounds kind of silly....doesn't it?


reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 05:38 PM by kthxbai
Originally posted by Gazrok
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if they are trying to kill us slowly with all the chem trails they are spreading and chloride they are putting in water and all the other crap they are doing




You do realize of course, that if ANY of that were true...then THEY would also be doing the same thing to THEIR wives, their kids, their parents, and themselves (as they breathe the same air, drink the same water, etc.), right? Now it just sounds kind of silly....doesn't it?


Agreed. If they do try to "kill us off", they won't use means that affect each and every person alive like water, air, basic food, etc. That's one of the reasons I have serious doubts about the chemtrails

Whatever they do to the basic environment, they also do to themselves. If you want to find a conspiracy, you have to look at things that people make a choice in being exposed to so they can make the choice of not being exposed to it such as cigarettes, alcohol, fast food and the like.

I'm not saying they'd never do anything, not at al, just that "they" would ensure that "hey" aren't exposed to it as well.
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