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leaked document military internment camps in us to be used for political dissidents

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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:06 AM
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You do realize that the majority of that spent brass up for sale comes directly from all of our military training operations. Cumulative across all branches of service. Its not coming solely from DHS training.

And only the big commercial operations have the capability to handle the thousands of pounds of used brass.

Only a few years ago, there was a threat that the govt. would destroy this used brass....


Shipley said his company, one of the country’s top retailers of .223-calibre ammunition, normally buys 30,000 pounds of spent brass at a time from the Defense Department. Georgia Arms then turns the brass into ammo and resells it to law enforcement agencies, gun shops and other retail outlets.

But Shipley’s company was jeopardized when he received a letter March 12 from the Defense Department telling him that it would no longer be selling the spent shell casings and would instead only be selling scrap metal, which is virtually useless to ammunition sellers.

cnsnews.com...




posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:09 AM
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I guess those 2700 rolling armor trucks are for my safety . Get real , they are about to put something on our butts we ain't gonna like . Agenda 21 is Socialism/ Communism how ever you look at it . That's what they are going to put on us . How are you going to look at it . You can hide behind a little piece of paper called the Constitution but it is not worth a thing if you will not stand behind it and fight to keep it . If you deny whats happening your denying your constitution .



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by tide88

Originally posted by nighthawk1954
This is very scary stuff. And it tells you what those 1.6 billion bullets will be used for.
What is going on in this country?!?

www.youtube.com...


Nice. Except the 1.6 billion bullets is a completely wrong number and they are actually using those bullets not stockpiling them.

Check govliquidation.com and you can see them selling the spent casing on many of those bullets. They auction off millions of spent casings daily.

Gov selling spent bullet casings. They are not stockpiling any bullets


Your final sentence.... "They are not stockpiling any bullets."
Does this mean that the government employees, when ready to qualify with their weapons wait at the range for delivery of ammunition from the manufacturer? Then, apparently, they must shoot all of the ammunition that is delivered that day, as none are stored.

You did write 'any'.

Personally, I believe that the government does store ammunition. How much? I don't know.
You don't know either.

Edit to add: I would be very surprised to find out if anyone that works for the government does have an accurate figure for how much ammo they really have!
edit on 7-3-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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Yes I guess so but who would want to handle rotting bodies ?


Obviously no one. But that is what the inmates are for in a pinch.

The Nazis did that as well. They made the inmates do their dirty work quite often.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 09:44 AM
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Scary stuff, and it has been going on for a while now...

Remember Phil Schneider? He was an ex-government structural engineer who was involved in building underground military bases around the United States, and he was murdered for exposing truths and the American black budget, secret basses, prison camps, aliens...
Phil Schneider Story



"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled Senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the railyards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government.

So, possiblly Gunderson Steel Fabrication holds the federal contract for the 100,000+ shackle-mounted boxcars..In 2000, Bush as candidate makes his way to VISIT Gunderson Steel Fabrication (IN TEXAS), to give a t.v. speech about social security. Why a speech on social security had to be conducted from a possible shackled-boxcar manufacturer...hmmm

Lee Harrington,


Metal worker Lee Harrington also described 20,000 CHINESE prisoner boxcars with shackles and modern guillotines, in the form of 40 foot railroad containers, coming into America via the west coast. They were ordered by the American government through a Senator who visited China and ordered these items. Workers unloading them became suspicious and began to investigate and discovered these horrors from China. Such 40 foot cargo containers from China are now piled up along the West Coast, especially around Long Beach Naval Shipyard, turned over the Chinese."



"Another source, WATCHDOG, a retired military vet with a watchdog group, described yet another boxcar with shackles operation in New Hampshire, with three tiered boxcars fitted with shackles."


I'm not too sure as to what purpose these carts are for...some speculate, that these are said prisoner carts...
Google Maps, 48.238048,-113.530778





It makes you wonder...toss in the drone situation, prisons, prison carts...and now the OPs post, yeah it really makes you wonder...
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by RadicalRebel
 


I'd be interested to know in what conditions you think the government is going to round up families and put them into holding sites.

6 milion jews if they were alive,would tell you how's & whys of such things
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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I have noticed that the people who resent the government are for the most part the people who work and pay taxes and the people who support the government are the ones who are supported by the people who work and pay taxes.

So if the gov throws all the gov-resenting people into the camps who is going to work and pay taxes to support the government? The Government is not self sustaining, it needs people who do something of value to feed off of.


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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
People are angry with the notion that the government is building and maintaining these military camps. Why?

Are you people ignorant to the fact that a great part of the population especially in bigger cities are out of control, violent, on the starting line to create chaos. Too many guns, too much alcohol and lack of intelligence.



If SHTF does happen, and the cites are awash with fighting, those of us out in the countryside would do well to form up and come in from the backside and "represent" for our brothers in the city.


You can count me out of that. I don't relish the notion of entering a meatgrinder and just arbitrarily deciding that the first guy I see is a "friend" and whoever he's fighting is a "foe". I'm all for letting them thin EACH OTHER out without my input.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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I guess those 2700 rolling armor trucks are for my safety . Get real , they are about to put something on our butts we ain't gonna like . Agenda 21 is Socialism/ Communism how ever you look at it . That's what they are going to put on us . How are you going to look at it . You can hide behind a little piece of paper called the Constitution but it is not worth a thing if you will not stand behind it and fight to keep it . If you deny whats happening your denying your constitution .


I spoke about the contracts for the ammunition, not about any sort of armored vehicle order. I work on the largest government services contract ever awarded, so I am familiar with some things (but not everything, of course) dealing with this type of thing. Exposure to this sort of government contract only gives me limited insight.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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scary thing is i have tried talking to people about the mounting evidence & its like they dont want to hear it , they just want you climb in the mini-van get on the cellphone & head to the mall to shop ,
its like they are repeating to themselves ITS ALL GOOD , CANT HAPPEN HERE



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by blackz28
scary thing is i have tried talking to people about the mounting evidence & its like they dont want to hear it , they just want you climb in the mini-van get on the cellphone & head to the mall to shop ,
its like they are repeating to themselves ITS ALL GOOD , CANT HAPPEN HERE


Be mindful to remember that there is a big difference between thinking "it cant happen here" and saying "that is not evidence, and this is why." I think anyone stomping their feet and saying "it cant happen here" is wrong, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with being analytical and counting/discounting evidence that is put forth.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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basically they admitted to themselves that they are powerless to fix the problems and avert disaster,this unknown disaster is inevitable so they have moved to the next step and are making preparations to deal with the aftermath/consequences of whatever it is they made a mess of this time.


Nah this has been planned for some time. A lot of people have been told of the socialist takeover and plot but, I'm guessing many people refuse to believe it because it seemed so far fetched when it was first revealed years ago.


Through lawlessness the rebellious entities have snared the perversions of the hearts of the people before they were able to persuade them to participate in horrendous crimes against their fellow man to secure and maintain their power and control.



Now I understand why "moral flexibility" is taught and considered a valuable trait in the education system today. How else could the generation accept such abominable acts against other human beings?

Still wonder what all those bullets are for that the authorities have been recently buying?


These re-education programs have been in operation for over 25 years now, right under our noses (the public school system (elementary through college)...through government mandates and which btw...couldn't have been accomplished without cooperate employees).




If people realized what is really being done, I don't think they would want to be part of it.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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Some have practiced it abroad, for a long time...



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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Yes... A little of paranoia... What if noone survived camps, if nazis took the identity of murdered persons? Buaaahhaaahhaaa...
www.hark.com...



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by grobi77

Originally posted by Hopechest
Now its possible that a few of these could be constructed and use as a type of Gulag but My God, can you imagine the outcry from the public once they knew what was going on?

Look at the controversy surrounding Gitmo, which Obama tried to close, and I don't see how resettlement facilities could possibly work.


I wish I could be this trustful again


Yes I remember the public outcry on Gitmo.
And? It's still running...and people are still imprisoned without any trial.
But the outcry is gone...because obama tried to close it

Maybe Obama try to close these camps too...(after he opened them)
We can be hopeful



And:
You never imprison the whole population. Only the leaders and speakers of the insurgents. The rest will remain silent in fear of imprisonment/torture.
Works fine for many countries in past and present, so why not for the US?


Obama never tried to close Gitmo. He ate those words a long time ago. Unfortunately, people believed he meant what he said. It's true, you only need to lock up the strongest, leaders etc. The rest of the sheeple will keep quiet.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by tide88

Originally posted by nighthawk1954
This is very scary stuff. And it tells you what those 1.6 billion bullets will be used for.
What is going on in this country?!?

www.youtube.com...


Nice. Except the 1.6 billion bullets is a completely wrong number and they are actually using those bullets not stockpiling them.

Check govliquidation.com and you can see them selling the spent casing on many of those bullets. They auction off millions of spent casings daily.

Gov selling spent bullet casings. They are not stockpiling any bullets


Seems odd that the purchase would be for 80,000 yet they are selling off a million casings a day.
that would equate into less than a day or two worth of shooting.
Seems like if you were selling a million casings a day, the next order would have to be for at least a billion or so rounds.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 06:00 PM
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I agree , the fact is that we see it happening here . Many little things that adds up to one thing the Dept of HLS is gearing up for war and fast . The detention camps mostly on military bases are real .The disinformation effort by our government has clouded the issue . There are people on this popular site working hard to put tinfoil hats on us all .. I have followed the 385 million dollar no bid contract ( on their official site) that Kellogg Brown and Root had to build them . Then there was a well publicized 1.86 million dollar contract to convert a facility to a detention camp . It's real get ready.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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I agree , the fact is that we see it happening here . Many little things that adds up to one thing the Dept of HLS is gearing up for war and fast . The detention camps mostly on military bases are real .The disinformation effort by our government has clouded the issue . There are people on this popular site working hard to put tinfoil hats on us all .. I have followed the 385 million dollar no bid contract ( on their official site) that Kellogg Brown and Root had to build them . Then there was a well publicized 1.86 million dollar contract to convert a facility to a detention camp . It's real get ready.


What you are doing is coming to conclusions based on peripheral happenings. While this in and of itself is not an issue, trying to push those conclusions as fact IS misleading.

The only PERSONAL tie that I can claim to all of this is with the whole idea that most of these "camps" are on military bases. I deal with Navy and Marine Corps people 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. These individuals are not only on USN and USMC bases, but also TDY to various Army and Air Force bases. From Key West, FL to Bremerton, WA, and everything in between. I hold a security clearance higher than many of the people that I have to deal with, as a requirement of my job. I have done this for the last 8 years. In that time, there has been exactly *zero* evidence of anything of this sort going on at any bases that I have had dealings with individuals at. This is not to say that it CANNOT ever happen; only that there is no evidence of it happening at this time.
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by poloblack

Originally posted by Hopechest
Well looking at just the facts I don't see how these are any different than prisons really. The largest one only holds 8000 people, considering we have over 300 million people in the country do you honestly think they are going to build enough of these to house everyone?

We had problems just trying to detain about 100k Japanese during WWII, and it ended up being just a voluntary thing for them. We couldn't control that many people whatsoever.

Now its possible that a few of these could be constructed and use as a type of Gulag but My God, can you imagine the outcry from the public once they knew what was going on?

Look at the controversy surrounding Gitmo, which Obama tried to close, and I don't see how resettlement facilities could possibly work.

I would love for someone to explain to me what the reasons for these would be also. Anything on a massive scale will require an extreme event so that people allow them to happen. What event would that be?
They're not trying to ''resettle'' the entire population, only those that they would have to contend with, those who pose a genuine threat to them. And they know that they have nothing to fear, as of now, from the majority of the population. Just look around.


Also this thread opens the possibility..of added space all ready to go.


For Profit Prisons -- Are You Insane?


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Seemed weird when they started building these new prisons and letting them be run like a business.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
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The FEMA coffins always irritate me. Let’s face it, why stack bodies for burial, possibly contaminating the ground and water supply when you can just burn them and eliminate any types of vectors.

I’m not saying that are not any possible FEMA sites…I know there are. Many deactivated military bases have been designated as such. The infrastructure is in place and it wouldn’t take much to get them up and running, with the exception of personnel.

But they can only hold so many people. Once a viral outbreak were to occur, that mess would go way beyond any existing plans.


Well suppose we have it all wrong, the ones going into camps are inoculated and cared for (thus the swing sets and such)...the ones outside are purposefully infected with a disease.

You need some form of container to hold corpses as going house to house to collect the dead, until you can cremate in a central area. You may have to keep them around a while as there would be a lot of them.



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