BBC News: Why have the white British left London?

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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


Not wanting to live in a neighborhood that is now dominated by third world cultures, restaurants catering to third world tastes and temples servicing third world religions doesn't make a person a racist.


But how many neighbourhoods are actually like that? Very few. I can think of a couple of areas of London and a handful in towns in the North of England, and even most of those still have large numbers of white British in them, like 40 per cent. But the vast, vast majority of Britain remains overwhelmingly white and culturally 'British'.

And most people actually like curries.

You haven't commented on my point above, which I'd be interested in your opinion on. Do you think Britain will remain economically preeminent through to 2066? Because your supposition about immigration suggests so.




posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 05:46 AM
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Ironic, isn't it? He's quick to judge all muslims for their 'violent' ways, and two breaths later is preaching a race war. Total idiocy.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by GrandStrategy
The irony is the type of white people leaving london for the most part are scum, and they're not much wanted in the places they're moving to. They're bringing lots of crime, drugs and a dole-dossing culture.

It's the worst of london who are fleeing. The racist underclass.


"The racist underclass"

Perhaps if you were actually aware of how mass immigration destroyed white working class communities you'd understand why this country now has "A racist underclass"
The use of the word "Underclass" i find to be highly offensive, adding insult to injury. How the hell are the white working class of this country suppose to crack on when they keep letting in more and MORE migrants? They're inducing poverty. They're keeping wages low, jobs scarce and then calling people scum for being a victim of bad politics.

Racist underclass: 1
Bigoted "educated" idiot: 0



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by revmoofoo
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London used to be an awesome city to live in, but now I'd rather leave it and it's problems to the tourists and the immigrants, while I enjoy a nice quiet life in one of the most beautiful villages in Cornwall.

Rev




You're lucky you could sell up and move... some of us are stuck here until we earn or save enough to move!! I live in one of the boroughs which is over-populated with Immigrants.... I feel like I'm on holiday when I go out.... and then I realize I'm still in London! I didn't mind when I actually felt English but now I feel that the place is becoming more like Afghanistan... I mean Nigeria.... no I mean both.... Nigeristan maybe...

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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by JuniorDisco

Originally posted by ollncasino


Not wanting to live in a neighborhood that is now dominated by third world cultures, restaurants catering to third world tastes and temples servicing third world religions doesn't make a person a racist.


But how many neighbourhoods are actually like that? Very few. I can think of a couple of areas of London and a handful in towns in the North of England, and even most of those still have large numbers of white British in them, like 40 per cent. But the vast, vast majority of Britain remains overwhelmingly white and culturally 'British'.

And most people actually like curries.

You haven't commented on my point above, which I'd be interested in your opinion on. Do you think Britain will remain economically preeminent through to 2066? Because your supposition about immigration suggests so.



40%!!???? Once upon a time, not so long ago, there were 99% White British, EVERYWHERE in Britain....I would think 40% is a mass decline...Genocide of the Migration kind?



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by gort51

40%!!???? Once upon a time, not so long ago, there were 99% White British, EVERYWHERE in Britain....I would think 40% is a mass decline...Genocide of the Migration kind?


I'm willing to hazard a guess that you don't know what you're talking about, but two questions:

- when?

and

- so what?

I'm talking about a handful of tiny areas that are majority non-white British. To paint this as a country filled full of racial ghettos is racist scaremongering. And why do you want the country to be 99 per cent white? All indications suggest that this would be bad economically and culturally.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Originally posted by revmoofoo
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London used to be an awesome city to live in, but now I'd rather leave it and it's problems to the tourists and the immigrants, while I enjoy a nice quiet life in one of the most beautiful villages in Cornwall.

Rev




You're lucky you could sell up and move... some of us are stuck here until we earn or save enough to move!! I live in one of the boroughs which is over-populated with Immigrants.... I feel like I'm on holiday when I go out.... and then I realize I'm still in London! I didn't mind when I actually felt English but now I feel that the place is becoming more like Afghanistan... I mean Nigeria.... no I mean both.... Nigeristan maybe...

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Where do you live, as a matter of interest?



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:51 AM
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East London! The Borough which is at the top of the list! 59% don't speak English as their main Language and probably about 25% of those can't even speak or understand English!

Maybe if the Councils had spread them out into other Boroughs it wouldn't be so bad!
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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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East London! The Borough which is at the top of the list! 59% don't speak English as their main Language and probably about 25% of those can't even speak or understand English!

Maybe if the Councils had spread them out into other Boroughs it wouldn't be so bad!
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Tower Hamlets I guess? That is the most in Britain, I think.

I sympathise with you wanting to move to a certain extent. But I don't recognise this formulation that some on here seem to believe in of whole areas of cities and great swathes of Britain filled with non-white immigrants. I mean even where you live, in the most immigration-filled part of London, there are still more white people than non-white.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 08:49 AM
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Pennsylvania's Socialist Democrats taxed rural Pennsylvania into poverty to get enough money to provide the welfare for the blacks in Pittsburgh-Philadelphia.

So the whites fled Pennsylvania...all gone. The few who were rich enough to stick around....just got notices their property-home values are being re-assessed from worth $25,000 for property taxes....to now worth $180,000 for property taxes.....

And this kicks off the last white exodus from Pennsylvania. England suffered the same problem. People had to flee to survive....as well as get away from the social problems caused by extreme poverty....drugs...crime....severe alcoholism...child neglect....crooked cops-politicians....judicial system needing to rape its citizens to get revenue.....

Dire time for the white folk getting strangled to death......no place to call home....no piece of the Earth to call their own. There's a few who have been the ones robbing the Treasuries who have been living VERY good lives....
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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Pervius
Pennsylvania's Socialist Democrats taxed rural Pennsylvania into poverty to get enough money to provide the welfare for the blacks in Pittsburgh-Philadelphia.

So the whites fled Pennsylvania...all gone.



Except... Pennsylvania remains 80 per cent white. So you're talking total nonsense.



Dire time for the white folk getting strangled to death......no place to call home....no piece of the Earth to call their own. There's a few who have been the ones robbing the Treasuries who have been living VERY good lives....


What absolute racist crap. It remains far easier, far more a position of privilege, to be white almost everywhere on the planet.
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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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I mean even where you live, in the most immigration-filled part of London, there are still more white people than non-white.


Oh, that's lucky then, it supposedly being a white country and everything.


I wonder how your wonderful multicultural/multiethnic utopian world outlook would go down in New Delhi and Islamabad?

I'm guessing not so well.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Is it racism or is it simply migration? Serious question by the way. London is far to big. I am ok with a weekend visit but any longer and i absolutely start to detest the place (can be a problem when working there!).

We have had people leave the country to work in towns. Perhaps this is simply the beginning of opposite migration (town to country). Plus, to be fair, for the 600'000 white British that have left, over 400'000 French people have moved in - London is now the 4th largest French City (which is highly bizarre really).



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by CJCrawley
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Oh, that's lucky then, it supposedly being a white country and everything.


I wonder how your wonderful multicultural/multiethnic utopian world outlook would go down in New Delhi and Islamabad?

I'm guessing not so well.


Countries have colours now?


I like that you impute a world view to me that I don't hold. As to the subcontinent, presumably your pessimistic, racist outlook wouldn't go down very well there either. When I was in India last year they welcomed me, certainly significantly more than I suspect you would them.

Seriously for a moment - although it's difficult when faced with such cliched rubbish - what is this constant need for equivalence amongst racists? "I may hate people, but (*picks example of madman who's said something nasty about whites/christians*) he's even worse!"

It doesn't exactly dignify your point of view.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 10:08 AM
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I read somewhere that France has a constitutional commitment to a 'greater France' - so places like the French West Indies have MPs in France's national parliament. It's therefore possible that there may have to be a French MP for London!



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 10:13 AM
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What's the birthrate for white people in the US again?

Nevermind. The facts are right here: www.prb.org...

2.0 for black / non-Hispanic, 1.7 for Asian / Pacific Islander, 1.8 for white / non-Hispanic, and 2.4 for Latina.

It seems you have been harboring an ugly, baseless stereotype.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 10:18 AM
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Well fine, hunny, go and tell them that millions of European pale-skins are going to live in their cities and see how "welcoming" they are then.


Proof of the pudding, and all that.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by JuniorDisco

I can think of a couple of areas of London and a handful in towns in the North of England, and even most of those still have large numbers of white British in them, like 40 per cent.


One thing is incontrovertible. There are an awfully lot of non white immigrants in London



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Looking at the corresponding mayoral electoral map, a cynic could observe that the multicultural experiment is working





Originally posted by JuniorDisco

And most people actually like curries.


I also like curries but it doesn't mean I want to live in Delhi.


Originally posted by JuniorDisco

Do you think Britain will remain economically preeminent through to 2066? Because your supposition about immigration suggests so.


In 1890, who in the UK could have accurately predicted where the UK would be economically in 1945?

Population numbers do matter of course but who knows what the future holds.

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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by CJCrawley
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Well fine, hunny, go and tell them that millions of European pale-skins are going to live in their cities and see how "welcoming" they are then.


Proof of the pudding, and all that.


Yes, because you know exactly how they would feel based on... what? Total supposition? Your own prejudice and stupidity?

You realise that you're basically saying that you're allowed to be a bigot because you think other people might be? Does that seem logical to you?



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

One thing is incontrovertible. There are an awfully lot of non white immigrants in London



You realise that this map doesn't prove anything about 'non white immigrants'? It refers only to % of white British.

It's important to be accurate when you discuss these things. Or you an be accused of having an agenda.






This is another false equivalence. Inner-city areas have overwhelmingly voted Labour regardless of immigration. That they continue to do so is hardly a surprise.




I also like curries but it doesn't mean I want to live in Delhi.


You implied you didn't want to eat in third world restaurants. I think your life would be slightly poorer without them.


Originally posted by JuniorDisco

In 1890, who in the UK could have accurately predicted where the UK would be economically in 1945?

Population numbers do matter of course but who knows what the future holds.

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Exactly. So you can't accurately predict immigration either, since it is largely economic. Which means your talk about being 'outnumbered' is baseless.





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