BBC News: Why have the white British left London?

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posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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Maybe they don't like the culture infusion, there is reason some areas are called Asian town, etc why... Bcos its comfortable and have security in your own communities.


 
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posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by spacedog1973

'White Britons?' When has the colour of skin been an accurate record of ones origins?

Many so-called white Britons have family all over Europe, themselves often only a few generations here. And in case anyone didn't know, there have been plenty of non white Britons here in the uk for far far longer.



I suspect that if 620,000 black people had left London in the last 10 years, questions would also be asked.

The OP title is perhaps misleading however. Most people these days are not terribly concerned about what colour someone is. It is about culture. British culture, values and social mores being replaced by something else, often third world.

People are concerned to see the culture of where they live changing around them from something British to something which is not. I imagine that many, many non white Britons who have lived in the UK for a long time share the same concerns.



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posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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First, a disclaimer, because I know I'm not going to explain this very well, and I know what it's going to end up sounding like: I am not anti immigration, nor am I a racist or a bigot of any kind. I tend to lean towards the left, when I agree with anything within the current system at all. Now, onwards...


Originally posted by spacedog1973Because that is what Britain is and always has been, a long history of being invaded, a nation of mongrels. Now the mongrels think they have a pedigree? And that is whiteness...


It is true that this country has seen many waves of settlement and invasion, but what is almost never mentioned is that other than the Romans these settlers have all been 'germanic' in character. From the Angles and the Jutes, through the Saxons, Normans and Viking raids. I'm not suggesting in any way that all these people are a homogeneous mass, but they did share a certain character and cultural elements, which do give the various 'indigenous' British peoples at least some claim to a shared heritage and culture. Just because we are told we're mongrels doesn't make it so.

What I am against is mass immigration of largely unskilled people when unemployment is so high. They might be doing jobs that British people don't want to do, but as a whole we need to suck it up and take more responsibility for ourselves. If there's work available we should be doing it. If nothing else it might lessen the scapegoating of people who genuinely need benefits to survive...



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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I read somewhere recently that it's not only white British who are moving out of the inner cities, especially London - apparently many black British who emmigrated here two or three generations ago are also leaving.
Many of these families are fully integrated into the UK and have helped it's society grow and develop.

What isn't broadcast in MSM is that many of these people feel threatened by the recent influx of immigrants from Eastern Africa who they feel lack any sort of work ethic, are unwilling to intigrate, are violent and offer nothing positive to the UK.

I know one or two people who share this sentiment.

London has always been a bit of a melting pot and there's been a constant fluidity to it's demographic profile - many Londoner's moved into the suburbs and then towns like Woking during the 50's and 60's.

Personally I despise the place - although I love Camden Town.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Perturabo

It is true that this country has seen many waves of settlement and invasion, but what is almost never mentioned is that other than the Romans these settlers have all been 'germanic' in character.

From the Angles and the Jutes, through the Saxons, Normans and Viking raids. I'm not suggesting in any way that all these people are a homogeneous mass, but they did share a certain character and cultural elements, which do give the various 'indigenous' British peoples at least some claim to a shared heritage and culture.


You make a very good point. The Angles, Saxons and Viking invaders who choose to settle were European in character and genetics.

While on the one hand, over the last 6,500 years Wales and Cornwall have received about 20% immigrant genetics, Scotland 30% & eastern and southern England about a 1/3, that immigrant population was European in origin and did share many genetic and cultural similarities.

On the other hand, what we are seeing today is unprecedented in both its scale and its nature.

White Britons to become minority by 2066

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posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
I read somewhere recently that it's not only white British who are moving out of the inner cities, especially London - apparently many black British who emmigrated here two or three generations ago are also leaving.

What isn't broadcast in MSM is that many of these people feel threatened by the recent influx of immigrants from Eastern Africa who they feel lack any sort of work ethic, are unwilling to intigrate, are violent and offer nothing positive to the UK.


The Chief Constable of Kent blames “migration surges” for a 35 per cent rise in violent crime in his county.

Migrants send our crime rate soaring

Of course most immigrants are law abiding. Anecdotal evidence does suggest however that some immigrant communities are more prone to crime than others.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 03:56 PM
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what we are seeing today is unprecedented in both its scale and its nature.


It's also a monstrous scam whose sole aim is to swell the coffers of money-grubbing businessmen.

Capitalism on steroids.

A scam that will only work on soft, pampered, civilised peoples.

That's why they don't try pulling it in any third world country - all the traffic is one-way.

They have, quite ingeniously, silenced all opposition to their scam by creating this ridiculous paranoia about being racist if you happen to disagree with it.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by GrandStrategy
The irony is the type of white people leaving london for the most part are scum, and they're not much wanted in the places they're moving to. They're bringing lots of crime, drugs and a dole-dossing culture.

It's the worst of london who are fleeing. The racist underclass.


Funny you sound like you live in upside down world...... They're leaving because of the crime with drugs and the gangbangers and the muslims who want sharia law in their neighborhoods..... Where did all these "racist underclass" people get the money to move out of the "ghettos" you suggest they're living in.... Maybe just maybe the people immigrating took their once nice neighborhood and turned it into a ghetto, maybe that's why they're taking off in droves!



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by CJCrawley
It's also a monstrous scam whose sole aim is to swell the coffers of money-grubbing businessmen.

They have, quite ingeniously, silenced all opposition to their scam by creating this ridiculous paranoia about being racist if you happen to disagree with it.


"Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face."

~ Charlton Heston

It could be observed that political correctness has served to largely silence opposition to mass immigration. There does also seem to be an unholy alliance between the left and big business on immigration.

Mass immigration is a win win for the left and big business. The left gain voters who become clients of the state while big business get cheap labour.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:20 PM
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There's many Brits that have moved to Spain and other safer cheaper places in Europe that have more freedom.
England is becoming the cesspool of its former self



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by CJCrawley
It's also a monstrous scam whose sole aim is to swell the coffers of money-grubbing businessmen.

They have, quite ingeniously, silenced all opposition to their scam by creating this ridiculous paranoia about being racist if you happen to disagree with it.


"Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face."

~ Charlton Heston

It could be observed that political correctness has served to largely silence opposition to mass immigration. There does also seem to be an unholy alliance between the left and big business on immigration.

Mass immigration is a win win for the left and big business. The left gain voters who become clients of the state while big business get cheap labour.



Isnt that what happened in the creation of the United States? everyone baled to escape queen and country?
I guess history really does repeat itself



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by SPECULUM

England is becoming the cesspool of its former self


Meanwhile, British politicians dream of a resurgent UK based on immigration.

UK population 'largest in Western Europe by 2050'

British economy will be biggest in Europe in four decades

on the other hand...

House of Lords: Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by SPECULUM

England is becoming the cesspool of its former self


Meanwhile, British politicians dream of a resurgent UK based on immigration.

UK population 'largest in Western Europe by 2050'

British economy will be biggest in Europe in four decades

on the other hand...

House of Lords: Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit


I honestly believe that England along with the US are in bed together on this hostile take over of each country, it seems they must show the rest of the world the way to the new world order, by overpopulating its country with illegals, running out the majority then closing the noose....its so crystal clear



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 04:58 PM
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I am gonna jump in and say that I had family that lived in London and also family that lived in Birmingham and as a child have many happy memories in both cities but as the years progressed i noticed a change in both cities from running around as a kid in the many parks of both to being told I'm not to go out the garden and when I was old enough to wonder the streets myself felt uncomfortable in doing so because of large groups of asians/africans who have taken these cities over to the point where our own indigenous race feels pushed out of them I live on on the south coast and have done all my life but my family who originally are from these cities have all moved south because of the fear to wonder the streets the feelings of resentment and frustration that we are being made to feel like this and because the goverment allows it to happen but it will get to the point where people will say enough is enough and take matters into there own hands I for one am sick of reading about gangs of pedophile Asians gang raping white girls and using them for prostituiton and trying to impose shira law in areas of our cities would they like us to open a Christian church next to a mosque? No it wouldn't be aloud to happen there would be a up roar roll on the day this country finally wakes up and drives this menace from OUR country your in it live by OUR laws or leave!!!



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by maxpayne00
I am gonna jump in and say that I had family that lived in London and also family that lived in Birmingham and as a child have many happy memories in both cities but as the years progressed i noticed a change in both cities from running around as a kid in the many parks of both to being told I'm not to go out the garden and when I was old enough to wonder the streets myself felt uncomfortable in doing so because of large groups of asians/africans who have taken these cities over to the point where our own indigenous race feels pushed out of them I live on on the south coast and have done all my life but my family who originally are from these cities have all moved south because of the fear to wonder the streets the feelings of resentment and frustration that we are being made to feel like this and because the goverment allows it to happen but it will get to the point where people will say enough is enough and take matters into there own hands I for one am sick of reading about gangs of pedophile Asians gang raping white girls and using them for prostituiton and trying to impose shira law in areas of our cities would they like us to open a Christian church next to a mosque? No it wouldn't be aloud to happen there would be a up roar roll on the day this country finally wakes up and drives this menace from OUR country your in it live by OUR laws or leave!!!

I see a great ethnic cleansing the day the queen is pronounced dead or the beginning



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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I honestly believe that England along with the US are in bed together on this hostile take over of each country


Well, them and the rest of the western world.

I think the plan is to re-form the west on the blueprint of the USA.

One huge melting pot, with a never-ending supply of bodies from Africa, the Middle East, India, and wherever else.

More bodies, more lovely moolah....



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by CJCrawley
reply to post by SPECULUM
 




I honestly believe that England along with the US are in bed together on this hostile take over of each country


Well, them and the rest of the western world.

I think the plan is to re-form the west on the blueprint of the USA.

One huge melting pot, with a never-ending supply of bodies from Africa, the Middle East, India, and wherever else.

More bodies, more lovely moolah....




its the only way they can divide and conquer, just as they have learned in the US
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posted on Mar, 5 2013 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Atzil321
I am sure the BBC are thrilled with the result of this census, and will be happier still when foreigners make up 100% of the population in our capital city. I wonder how they will feel about the multicultural experiment in 20 years time, when londonistan is under sharia law..


Single figure percentages of muslims want any kind of sharia-based legal system. And London is about 8 per cent muslim. So by your reckoning a few tens of thousands of people among millions will somehow alter the whole judicial system of the UK.

Utter nonsense.

And as someone else points out, the most obvious immigrant group - Poles - tend to be Christian in much higher numbers than native Brits. Our local Catholic church is literally packed out the door on major saints days. So I imagine your viewpoint is designed to, what? Encourage division and hatred? Certainly it's lack of basis in reality suggests an ulterior motive.



posted on Mar, 5 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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There seems to be a general assumption here that the UK economy will stay relatively very strong until at least 2066. Why does everyone think that? I can't see that it will.



posted on Mar, 5 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by JuniorDisco
And as someone else points out, the most obvious immigrant group - Poles - tend to be Christian in much higher numbers than native Brits. Our local Catholic church is literally packed out the door on major saints days. So I imagine your viewpoint is designed to, what? Encourage division and hatred? Certainly it's lack of basis in reality suggests an ulterior motive.


To be fair, British Muslims as a group do tend to be much more militant than Polish Christians as a group so your underlying assumption that Polish Christians will in some way pacify radical Muslims is somewhat questionable.

After all, how many Polish Christians have demanded the death or prosecution of someone who has insulted Christianity?





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